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Title: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on June 27, 2011, 11:14:38 PM
Experiments and work in progress.
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Post by: Romero on July 01, 2011, 03:17:22 PM
Pictures with projects I have been working -Kapanadze-
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Post by: Romero on July 01, 2011, 03:21:09 PM
Coil Shorting
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Post by: Romero on July 01, 2011, 03:25:35 PM
RG2
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Post by: Romero on July 01, 2011, 03:27:45 PM
RG
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Post by: Romero on July 01, 2011, 03:30:04 PM
RG
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Post by: Romero on July 01, 2011, 03:31:06 PM
RG
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Post by: Romero on July 01, 2011, 03:34:22 PM
RG
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Post by: Romero on July 01, 2011, 10:28:31 PM
RG
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Post by: Romero on July 04, 2011, 12:32:18 AM
Test Unit
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Post by: Romero on July 04, 2011, 01:06:48 AM
Nice scope wave from the test unit.
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Post by: Romero on July 06, 2011, 01:06:01 AM
Test unit more pictures
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Post by: Romero on July 07, 2011, 01:52:04 PM
More testing for the output coil, tuning for speed under load.
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Post by: Hitman on July 27, 2011, 03:45:18 PM
Hi Romero,
Do you have a schematic posted for your coil shorting experiment, in particular the circuit in the attachment:

(had to attatch the picture to this post cause my server is under extreme load..)

Thanks
Regards Hitman

Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on August 27, 2011, 07:22:20 PM
Hi Romero,
Do you have a schematic posted for your coil shorting experiment, in particular the circuit in the attachment:

(had to attatch the picture to this post cause my server is under extreme load..)

Thanks
Regards Hitman
Hi,
there is nothing special, just bridge rectifiers connected to all coils around the rotor.
The shorting in that experiment was done using a reed in series with a capacitor.
Mechanical shorting or switching is the best and nothing can replicate that, unfortunately the reed switch will not last too much.Mosfets are good enough but must have many of them in parallel to get close to the mechanical switch, also the lowest resistance we can get.

Best regards,
Romero
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Post by: toranarod on September 14, 2011, 01:09:00 AM
Hi Romero,
Do you have a schematic posted for your coil shorting experiment, in particular the circuit in the attachment:

(had to attatch the picture to this post cause my server is under extreme load..)

Thanks
Regards Hitman
Hi,
there is nothing special, just bridge rectifiers connected to all coils around the rotor.
The shorting in that experiment was done using a reed in series with a capacitor.
Mechanical shorting or switching is the best and nothing can replicate that, unfortunately the reed switch will not last too much.Mosfets are good enough but must have many of them in parallel to get close to the mechanical switch, also the lowest resistance we can get.

Best regards,
Romero

I am looking for any help I can get to find out if its possible to get acceleration greater than no coil present in the system.
If you read this Romero do you know. please help.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: toranarod on September 14, 2011, 01:17:17 AM
RG
http://www.falconacoustics.co.uk/audio-inductors-ferrite-air-core-iron-dust/audio-inductors-4mh-6mh-ferrite-air-core-iron-dust.html

Is this where you got your coils,  I use audio inductors  to. like you the main problem for people like us on a budget is manufacturing.
cheers Rod
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 14, 2011, 08:25:14 AM
RG
http://www.falconacoustics.co.uk/audio-inductors-ferrite-air-core-iron-dust/audio-inductors-4mh-6mh-ferrite-air-core-iron-dust.html

Is this where you got your coils,  I use audio inductors  to. like you the main problem for people like us on a budget is manufacturing.
cheers Rod
Hi,
I have used them to get coils and irondust cores. I also had custom coils made by them. Email them and ask. Depending on what you want, custom coils can be expensive.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: landownunder on September 14, 2011, 08:57:13 AM
Hi romero please answer toranarods question if you have had this effect if at all possible. below is the question he has asked you thanks ron

I am looking for any help I can get to find out if its possible to get acceleration greater than no coil present in the system.
If you read this Romero do you know. please help.  please please ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: toranarod on September 14, 2011, 12:36:45 PM
Hi romero please answer toranarods question if you have had this effect if at all possible. below is the question he has asked you thanks ron

I am looking for any help I can get to find out if its possible to get acceleration greater than no coil present in the system.
If you read this Romero do you know. please help.  please please ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Thank you Landownunder
this is a very important question because we need to know or have some idea what is enough how far can acceleration under load Go.
I needs some idea where to take the research. 
If it can increase past No coil installed then the next step will be to run a generator from only a load.
This is a concept I have never seen in a video forum or talked about.   
I am planing a much larger unit to generate usable power.   
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Post by: Romero on September 14, 2011, 01:13:37 PM
Hi romero please answer toranarods question if you have had this effect if at all possible. below is the question he has asked you thanks ron

I am looking for any help I can get to find out if its possible to get acceleration greater than no coil present in the system.
If you read this Romero do you know. please help.  please please ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Thank you Landownunder
this is a very important question because we need to know or have some idea what is enough how far can acceleration under load Go.
I needs some idea where to take the research. 
If it can increase past No coil installed then the next step will be to run a generator from only a load.
This is a concept I have never seen in a video forum or talked about.   
I am planing a much larger unit to generate usable power.   

Hi,
I have tested with aircore and that is like no coil when no load on it and I have got acceleration. I have also got it with MuMetal core. I have not measured the difference with other type of cores but I will do some testing and I will confirm. In my case, now I don't care too much about the acceleration, I want it to stay about the same when loaded.
When the acceleration changes, depending on the load, then we can only use a fix load and that is not what I am looking for.
By the end of this month I should have the new generator ready for testing. I am still waiting for some parts to finish it and at the same time I am planing to build something else too.

Best Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: landownunder on September 14, 2011, 02:31:30 PM
hi romero good luck with your experiments with your generator and other item, will you share with anyone your Knowledge at the end of month or will you sell plans for it or will it be another breakthrough that will disappear like a lot of others. please think about changing the world for the better and don't listen to all the negative comments from others. i wish you and your family all the best thanks for at least getting people on the right track with there experiments. ron

can you expand a bit on how you acceleration under load for toranarod to help him out please. like what sort of coil and windings etc
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Post by: Romero on September 14, 2011, 03:16:57 PM
hi romero good luck with your experiments with your generator and other item, will you share with anyone your Knowledge at the end of month or will you sell plans for it or will it be another breakthrough that will disappear like a lot of others. please think about changing the world for the better and don't listen to all the negative comments from others. i wish you and your family all the best thanks for at least getting people on the right track with there experiments. ron

can you expand a bit on how you acceleration under load for toranarod to help him out please. like what sort of coil and windings etc
I have shared a lot and I am still sharing. The current project i need to have it ready first. At the moment I am only guessing the results and hoping to be good.
Toranarod has enough info to continue, i don't have anything else to offer in helping him or anyone to get the speedup effect.
Check the forums and see that Mariuscivic had a small accident with his rotor and now after fixing it, is not getting the effect anymore but still same rotor and same coils... how can I teach someone when even people who had it working are not able to replicate all the time... practice is the answer.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Hitman on September 14, 2011, 04:27:10 PM
@ toranarod
I'm not sure if this is what your looking for but yesterday I made a new coil and connected it to my gen with long enough wires so I can take it out of the system.
With the coil out of the system, I start up the gen, once up to speed I move the coil into the correct position and I get major acceleration.

I will try to make a video of the effect and post to youtube if you would like to see it.

@ romero
I connected up 4 coils last night and noticed that the fourth coil had much less voltage then the first coil, is this the reason you added a second drive coil ?
 
Cheers Hitman.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: toranarod on September 14, 2011, 10:51:48 PM
@ toranarod
I'm not sure if this is what your looking for but yesterday I made a new coil and connected it to my gen with long enough wires so I can take it out of the system.
With the coil out of the system, I start up the gen, once up to speed I move the coil into the correct position and I get major acceleration.

I will try to make a video of the effect and post to youtube if you would like to see it.

@ romero
I connected up 4 coils last night and noticed that the fourth coil had much less voltage then the first coil, is this the reason you added a second drive coil ?
 
Cheers Hitman.

this is good news  Please keep us informed.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 15, 2011, 01:14:01 AM
@ toranarod
I'm not sure if this is what your looking for but yesterday I made a new coil and connected it to my gen with long enough wires so I can take it out of the system.
With the coil out of the system, I start up the gen, once up to speed I move the coil into the correct position and I get major acceleration.

I will try to make a video of the effect and post to youtube if you would like to see it.

@ romero
I connected up 4 coils last night and noticed that the fourth coil had much less voltage then the first coil, is this the reason you added a second drive coil ?
 
Cheers Hitman.
Hi,
if all coils are identical then all should give about the same voltage.You must have something different to that coil or you have an internal short in the coil.
Do a video if you can, that can help all others.
Anyone trying to get the effect with aircore?

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Hitman on September 15, 2011, 04:52:56 AM
Thank you Landownunder
this is a very important question because we need to know or have some idea what is enough how far can acceleration under load Go.
I needs some idea where to take the research. 
If it can increase past No coil installed then the next step will be to run a generator from only a load.
This is a concept I have never seen in a video forum or talked about.   
I am planing a much larger unit to generate usable power.   

@toranarod
Hehe I got your name wrong in the video, sorry bout that.
Is this the effect your looking for ?
http://youtu.be/gMvNlDbe05U

Cheers Hitman
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Post by: Romero on September 15, 2011, 12:04:25 PM
@toranarod

Hi,
nice video.
I am still not 100% sure how you connected the generator coil but the effect is there. Are you saying that you are using the BEMF from the drive coil, applying it to the generator coil,... ?
What is the core used?

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Hitman on September 15, 2011, 05:51:37 PM
@toranarod

Hi,
nice video.
I am still not 100% sure how you connected the generator coil but the effect is there. Are you saying that you are using the BEMF from the drive coil, applying it to the generator coil,... ?
What is the core used?

Romero
@ romero
Yes I connected the BEMF to 1 of the windings of the bi-filer gen coil and core is ferrite rods from a comp. PSU.
I was trying to directly induce the gen coil with the BEMF, maybe I should try with more coils !! :)

Cheers Htiman.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: toranarod on September 15, 2011, 11:26:02 PM
@toranarod

Hi,
nice video.
I am still not 100% sure how you connected the generator coil but the effect is there. Are you saying that you are using the BEMF from the drive coil, applying it to the generator coil,... ?
What is the core used?

Romero

great work.  I have so many question I don't know where to start. based no my own work and observation I would like to see your motor.
and share some things with you and Romero that I think are happening and get your input.
its getting to a point where all of the interested party's should be put in a work shop together to create a think tank. We could sort this out once and for all.
It will take a long time by corresponding.

My concerned interest in some aspects of this is created by what i had in one setup on my bench.  I had the same effect in one of my motors.
I just could not get verification why. There where to many anomalies in the figures. As Romero has stated many times I could not replicate it in a different setup. 
the extra speed was some how linked to feed back from the generator coil to the drive coil. What the generator coil did was mirrored in the  drive coil.  this should not have been possible.
my drive coil was controlled by a processor and completely Independent  of the system speed. and any increase in speed would register in current flow. but it behaved in a revers to what it should
have.     
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Post by: free_nrg on September 15, 2011, 11:32:44 PM
Thank you Landownunder
this is a very important question because we need to know or have some idea what is enough how far can acceleration under load Go.
I needs some idea where to take the research. 
If it can increase past No coil installed then the next step will be to run a generator from only a load.
This is a concept I have never seen in a video forum or talked about.   
I am planing a much larger unit to generate usable power.   

@toranarod
Hehe I got your name wrong in the video, sorry bout that.
Is this the effect your looking for ?
http://youtu.be/gMvNlDbe05U

Cheers Hitman


I cant get any audio with this video, am i the only one having a problem?
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 16, 2011, 01:17:49 AM
@toranarod and all
Hi,

When I first seen the speedup effect (about 2 years back) I was shocked and already thought I have discovered OU  :).
Soon after that I realised that the effect alone is not going to get me there. The biggest disapointment was when after playing with that device and trying to change the coil with another one the effect vanished.
I have installed the original working coil back but again no more speedup. I went crazy and upset to myself that I touched something that worked. It took me about 2 weeks to get it back then I was scared to touch it and change anything.
I decided to leave it aside and build another one and see if I can replicate myself. I tried to have it built as close to the original one... it did not work. After another 2-3 weeks I decided to take the original rotor and put it to the new one,  this time after some adjustments it worked. Looking at the rotors they looked the same but somehow something was different. After lots of measurements comparing the 2 rotors I found that one of the magnets was not properly aligned, it was no more that 1mm difference. I fixed the problem with the magnet and finally I had 2 working devices.

I am telling you all this to understand that small things can stop it from working correctly.
Since then I built many coils and rotors to test different ideas and to get more from this effect. I have learnet so many things during this experimenting. When I was talking first on the forums and discussed about it people tried and because no success it was considered impossible. Thane Heins demonstrate it long before me and at that time I tried to replicate him and had no success, I realised later why. Now I can make almost any rotor/coil setup to speedup.

I am very happy that Mariuscivic,Toranarod and others have finally achived it. It took few months for them to get it but they got it without any help from me. I know that there is a lot of confusion and seems that all are in a dead end but I know  you will find the next step.
Having the rotor to speedup is not enough and it needs to be controlled and remain stable when the load is changed or inexistent. This is what I am trying to get with the new generator I am working on.I am trying to make it as simple is possible if I can, is just a project and no results so far.

I hate lots of unnecessary circuits and components that are wasting power. Somewhere in my mind I can see a picture having a generator where we don't use any complicated diagrams and controllers. It looks smart to see all sort of Ic's and fancy components but for me that is exactly what I don't need.
Going back almost 100 years we can see so many clever discoveries that used minimal components and started the progress and the technology we have now.
I am wondering many times how Tesla invented so many wonderful things without having any of the testing equipment we have now.
It is quite late now...

Regards,
Romero
 
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Post by: Hitman on September 16, 2011, 01:42:10 AM
@toranarod

Hi,
nice video.
I am still not 100% sure how you connected the generator coil but the effect is there. Are you saying that you are using the BEMF from the drive coil, applying it to the generator coil,... ?
What is the core used?

Romero

great work.  I have so many question I don't know where to start. based no my own work and observation I would like to see your motor.
and share some things with you and Romero that I think are happening and get your input.
its getting to a point where all of the interested party's should be put in a work shop together to create a think tank. We could sort this out once and for all.
It will take a long time by corresponding.

My concerned interest in some aspects of this is created by what i had in one setup on my bench.  I had the same effect in one of my motors.
I just could not get verification why. There where to many anomalies in the figures. As Romero has stated many times I could not replicate it in a different setup. 
the extra speed was some how linked to feed back from the generator coil to the drive coil. What the generator coil did was mirrored in the  drive coil.  this should not have been possible.
my drive coil was controlled by a processor and completely Independent  of the system speed. and any increase in speed would register in current flow. but it behaved in a revers to what it should
have.     
I'll bet a live multi user chat with audio and video help ?
I also have an audio chat server running I use for clients but I can add a private room to it.
heres a link to the chat client (this is a Teamtalk client that works just fine):
http://www.itawk.com/Teamtalk/
installation instructions are all on that page. (this is a windows application)

Cheers Hitman
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: landownunder on September 16, 2011, 02:41:21 AM
hi freenrg I had no problem with it but i had to turn up my speaker setting to hear him properly

@romero hope you are well and wish you the best with your experiments. i think hitman and rodney have a good idea to put you all in a workshop and brainstorm to work out exactly why you only get the effect here and there. I know you can do it when you need to now because you have been working on the effect for at least two years. I hope we don't have to wait for another two years for toranarod , hitman and marioscivit to get the effect when they want to. So any info to help them get that last little step would be greatly appreciated. all the best ron
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 16, 2011, 11:58:20 AM
Hi,

I am posting this here after having it posted at ou.com too.

I would like not to reffer to that muller device I had. What I am talking is about speed under load or short. I read on the forums people saying that we cannot have any benefit from this effect and we will never have higher speed than without the generator coil in place. I don't wanna start another conflict with some of the clever brains and because of that I am not insisting to prove they are wrong.
It will be easy for the people who managed to have acceleration under load/short to measure the rpm before adding the generator coil and again after the generator coil is in place.The only important thing is  to  use the right sequence, as I said before, the effect will take place at more than one place and the right core material is of a great importance.
Lately i discovered that the shape of the magnets and the shape of the core are very important too. Cube is better than round for the magnets. If the core has the end facing the rotor in a conical shape it is better too.
Just having the edge of the core polished a bit will make a difference, more sharp that cone will be even better.
Unfortunately I discovered some of this recently and I built my new generator with round magnets but the cores I managed to improve. It will not make a huge difference but sometimes little things counts.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: toranarod on September 16, 2011, 01:40:18 PM
hello Romero
I was wondering about this. in most of the videos i have seen on you tube i noticed square magnets.
I use square cores and round Magnets. I have a few square magnets and hundreds of round ones.
Reason? mostly round are easy to fit to a rotor. hard to drill a square hole :D
Something worth trying later. good call ;)
can I ask you a question? what do you think about the ratio of L over R. My new coil came out with low ratio. This is air core XL = 485 micro H, R = 0.56 ohm.
this improved with a core but not enough for my liking.   best wind i have done for a while But :(   

long day for me with a motor screaming at around 4000 RPM. How do you do it year in year out.
   
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 16, 2011, 03:24:25 PM
hello Romero
I was wondering about this. in most of the videos i have seen on you tube i noticed square magnets.
I use square cores and round Magnets. I have a few square magnets and hundreds of round ones.
Reason? mostly round are easy to fit to a rotor. hard to drill a square hole :D
Something worth trying later. good call ;)
can I ask you a question? what do you think about the ratio of L over R. My new coil came out with low ratio. This is air core XL = 485 micro H, R = 0.56 ohm.
this improved with a core but not enough for my liking.   best wind i have done for a while But :(   

long day for me with a motor screaming at around 4000 RPM. How do you do it year in year out.
 
Hi toranarod,

If u can give me more details about that coil and wire used i might be able to answer. XL = 485 micro H, R = 0.56 ohm. does seem not good enough for lower rpm. It will work if u go up with the rpm.
What is the spacing between the magnets comparing with the magnet size?
What do you mean with 'How do you do it year in year out. ??

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: mike_z on September 16, 2011, 04:31:20 PM
hello Romero
I was wondering about this. in most of the videos i have seen on you tube i noticed square magnets.
I use square cores and round Magnets. I have a few square magnets and hundreds of round ones.
Reason? mostly round are easy to fit to a rotor. hard to drill a square hole :D
Something worth trying later. good call ;)
can I ask you a question? what do you think about the ratio of L over R. My new coil came out with low ratio. This is air core XL = 485 micro H, R = 0.56 ohm.
this improved with a core but not enough for my liking.   best wind i have done for a while But :(   

long day for me with a motor screaming at around 4000 RPM. How do you do it year in year out.
 
Hi toranarod,

If u can give me more details about that coil and wire used i might be able to answer. XL = 485 micro H, R = 0.56 ohm. does seem not good enough for lower rpm. It will work if u go up with the rpm.
What is the spacing between the magnets comparing with the magnet size?
What do you mean with 'How do you do it year in year out. ??

Romero

Romero, from your experiments and observations, is it the higher L that shows the effect at lower rpms?
Or the ratio L/R?
Which one is better for lower rpms? A coil with L=10mH and R=1 ohm or a coil of 50mH and R=1 ohm? All else being equal of course.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 16, 2011, 05:08:54 PM

Romero, from your experiments and observations, is it the higher L that shows the effect at lower rpms?
Or the ratio L/R?
Which one is better for lower rpms? A coil with L=10mH and R=1 ohm or a coil of 50mH and R=1 ohm? All else being equal of course.
Thank you.
If L is higher then shows the effect at lower rpms but not only that .The number of magnets on the rotor must be taken into consideration, more magnets = higher frequency resulting lower rpm.Spacing the magnets on the rotor makes a big difference too.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: toranarod on September 16, 2011, 11:24:30 PM
hello Romero
I was wondering about this. in most of the videos i have seen on you tube i noticed square magnets.
I use square cores and round Magnets. I have a few square magnets and hundreds of round ones.
Reason? mostly round are easy to fit to a rotor. hard to drill a square hole :D
Something worth trying later. good call ;)
can I ask you a question? what do you think about the ratio of L over R. My new coil came out with low ratio. This is air core XL = 485 micro H, R = 0.56 ohm.
this improved with a core but not enough for my liking.   best wind i have done for a while But :(   

long day for me with a motor screaming at around 4000 RPM. How do you do it year in year out.
 
Hi toranarod,

If u can give me more details about that coil and wire used i might be able to answer. XL = 485 micro H, R = 0.56 ohm. does seem not good enough for lower rpm. It will work if u go up with the rpm.
What is the spacing between the magnets comparing with the magnet size?
What do you mean with 'How do you do it year in year out. ??

Romero

Romero, from your experiments and observations, is it the higher L that shows the effect at lower rpms?
Or the ratio L/R?
Which one is better for lower rpms? A coil with L=10mH and R=1 ohm or a coil of 50mH and R=1 ohm? All else being equal of course.
Thank you.


 year in year out. I am just saying you are very dedicated to this project  Its a way of say I respect all your hard work. :) 8)
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 16, 2011, 11:42:31 PM
Thank you toranarod !
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: kEhYo77 on September 17, 2011, 12:06:42 AM
Hi Romero an all. I remember that you mentioned that the optimal spacing between the rotor magnets to be 2,5 times the magnet diameter/width. Does that mean 2,5 times the width between the magnet's edges or their centers? Please clarify that if You can. I'll soon be able do the experiments on a small scale, just waiting for my for my outrunner motor to arrive. I already have an ESC for the motor an I have ordered some silicon steel sheets for the cores. Hope to join the bandwagon soon... All the best to You!
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 17, 2011, 01:07:54 AM
Hi Romero an all. I remember that you mentioned that the optimal spacing between the rotor magnets to be 2,5 times the magnet diameter/width. Does that mean 2,5 times the width between the magnet's edges or their centers? Please clarify that if You can. I'll soon be able do the experiments on a small scale, just waiting for my for my outrunner motor to arrive. I already have an ESC for the motor an I have ordered some silicon steel sheets for the cores. Hope to join the bandwagon soon... All the best to You!
At the time I had the muller generator I used about 2.5 but for the current generator i am using about 1.5. Based on my recent experiments I realised that should not be less 1.2. It all depends on the rotor size and the magnets size too.
I am in process of uploading to youtube another test and there I use NSNS with no spacing at all. We cannot have it the same if we have all magnets same direction.There is another effect I am calling it core relax, it needs a break before the next magnet.If the core material is not good enough then the relax stage requires aditional power from the magnet... this is only in my mind, I might be wrong.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 17, 2011, 01:23:25 AM
Speed under load in a different way.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGT4ML4m8i4[/youtube]
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: landownunder on September 17, 2011, 02:45:28 AM
Hi romero Very well done video i enjoyed it very much great to see you experimenting again and sharing. please keep it up as it gives a lot of people great pleasure to see these strange effects. I wish you the best of luck and don't listen to all the negative comments out there like you get at overunity. like the way some are treating tito. You must think that there are a lot of good people like yourself out there, like toranarod, hitman, marioscivit and others. with the greatest of respect ron
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: toranarod on September 17, 2011, 12:29:24 PM
Speed under load in a different way.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGT4ML4m8i4[/youtube]

Good work Thank you for the Video.
I have may question.  Not now, Time for a rest.   :)
cheers  :)
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: toranarod on September 18, 2011, 01:51:36 AM
I am going back to do a few experiments on my Adams style Motor.
I want to look into the conical shapes of the cores and square magnets.

I prefer to use a drive motor with good RPM control for the research
Ok this is a bit over sized but its the only one I had spare ;D
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: toranarod on September 18, 2011, 09:14:24 AM
I am going back to do a few experiments on my Adams style Motor.
I want to look into the conical shapes of the cores and square magnets.

I prefer to use a drive motor with good RPM control for the research
Ok this is a bit over sized but its the only one I had spare ;D

The Out runner is a brilliant motor.  They can turn anything at any RPM you need. 

Starting the rotor up, increasing speed to 2000 RPM and the brackets holding the magnets started to fail, bending out of shape.    Stopped the motor ASAP.
I was no where near the 3200 RPM i had predicated I needed.  How am I going to hold theses 30 x 30 mm magnets in place?
at 1900 RPM before it failed there was good signs of lenz backing off.  I will need to work with smaller magnets that can be held in Place for now.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: kEhYo77 on September 18, 2011, 11:56:45 AM
Hi Toranarod. My rotor spins nicely at 3200 RPM (30V@0,5A) with 2 driving coils. I get 300 Hz at poles. That is a max I can get from my power supply when it comes to voltage. The magnets are 24mm dia / 20mm length and the contraption does not even want to bend ;) The only problem is that the magnets are not square. My advice to You would be to make a similar construction with horseshoe brackets ( I made them myself from an aluminium stripe) and place your magnets behind them from the inside.
What I need now is lots of wire for my generator coils  because I estimate that 1 coil should have around 2 Henries for that to work in my setup at 3000 RPM. Similar to OverunityGuide's video.
With 15W input and those big magnets maybe my dream will come true some day. For now I will set aside this setup and try my luck with a small outrunner motor + ESC + Arduino + lots of small magnets in NS config. I am thinking of using coils from relays and see how it goes... Wish You luck.

kEhYo from Poland :D
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: toranarod on September 18, 2011, 02:51:18 PM
I have been thinking about your brackets. I will give it  a go tomorrow. Looks good.
How well do the magnets work with the bolt through the center of them.   I assume they came with the hole already in the magnet?

Good luck with your motor

cheers   
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: kEhYo77 on September 18, 2011, 05:00:17 PM
Yes. They came with a hole, and they work pretty good, they are very strong - N52 and the bolts are stainless steel - nonmagnetic...

Cheers.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: kEhYo77 on September 21, 2011, 09:00:23 AM
@ Romero. I find the "Speed under load in a different way" video quite fascinating. Can You post a schematic of that generator coil circuit, please. I think one could reverse engineer it from the video more or less so it does not seem to be a big secret or is it? ;)

cheers
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 21, 2011, 01:05:58 PM
@ Romero. I find the "Speed under load in a different way" video quite fascinating. Can You post a schematic of that generator coil circuit, please. I think one could reverse engineer it from the video more or less so it does not seem to be a big secret or is it? ;)

cheers
Hi,
the circuit used is not a secret, I tought that people will recognize it from the muller coil driver.It is exactly the same but instead of the battery I have a capacitor.
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: toranarod on September 21, 2011, 07:44:46 PM
Yes. They came with a hole, and they work pretty good, they are very strong - N52 and the bolts are stainless steel - nonmagnetic...

Cheers.

I built  a rotor using your bracket method. works very well. I don't like the steel bolt in the middle of the magnetic field but that's better than getting hit in the face with a magnet travailing at 120 Mph. ;D

I am now going to build a bigger version.  Have got good results at 4000 RPM NO Lenz drag. 
Thanks
cheers   
   
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: kEhYo77 on September 21, 2011, 08:23:43 PM
@ Toranarod. I am glad I helped a bit :) @ Romero. Thanks for making it clear. :D
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 22, 2011, 12:35:06 AM
More toys to play with...
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: landownunder on September 22, 2011, 03:58:13 AM
@toranarod At 4000 rpm is that with just one coil or more than that?
@ romero Nice toys there just wondering is that the best set up to have different amount of magnets to coil ratio is ther anything that works best?
keep up the good work we will get there in the end all the bst ron
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 22, 2011, 08:58:46 AM
@toranarod At 4000 rpm is that with just one coil or more than that?
@ romero Nice toys there just wondering is that the best set up to have different amount of magnets to coil ratio is ther anything that works best?
keep up the good work we will get there in the end all the bst ron
There are few things I am checking and that is the reason I am trying different rotors. I am not sure what is the best, just looking for the best ratio.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: toranarod on September 22, 2011, 11:45:47 AM
@toranarod At 4000 rpm is that with just one coil or more than that?
@ romero Nice toys there just wondering is that the best set up to have different amount of magnets to coil ratio is ther anything that works best?
keep up the good work we will get there in the end all the bst ron

I am installing 9 coils 8 magnets
I made two rotor today using your bracket Technique.  The good thing about the Bracket assembly Is its possible to change the aluminum to increase or decrease size.

good looking rotors Romero. 
I hope you can repeat your last experiment.  all hoping you are successful.

Rod
   
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: toranarod on September 22, 2011, 12:30:15 PM
@toranarod At 4000 rpm is that with just one coil or more than that?
@ romero Nice toys there just wondering is that the best set up to have different amount of magnets to coil ratio is ther anything that works best?
keep up the good work we will get there in the end all the bst ron

I am installing 9 coils 8 magnets
I made two rotor today using your bracket Technique.  The good thing about the Bracket assembly Is its possible to change the aluminum to increase or decrease size.

good looking rotors Romero. 
I hope you can repeat your last experiment.  all hoping you are successful.

Rod
 
hello Romero

in the photo of your magnets are you NSNSNSN round the disc rotor?  or all polls facing the same way..
 
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 22, 2011, 12:48:58 PM
@toranarod At 4000 rpm is that with just one coil or more than that?
@ romero Nice toys there just wondering is that the best set up to have different amount of magnets to coil ratio is ther anything that works best?
keep up the good work we will get there in the end all the bst ron

I am installing 9 coils 8 magnets
I made two rotor today using your bracket Technique.  The good thing about the Bracket assembly Is its possible to change the aluminum to increase or decrease size.

good looking rotors Romero. 
I hope you can repeat your last experiment.  all hoping you are successful.

Rod
 
hello Romero

in the photo of your magnets are you NSNSNSN round the disc rotor?  or all polls facing the same way..
This one is NSNS 12 magnets/10 coils

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: toranarod on September 24, 2011, 09:54:07 AM
@toranarod At 4000 rpm is that with just one coil or more than that?
@ romero Nice toys there just wondering is that the best set up to have different amount of magnets to coil ratio is ther anything that works best?
keep up the good work we will get there in the end all the bst ron

I am installing 9 coils 8 magnets
I made two rotor today using your bracket Technique.  The good thing about the Bracket assembly Is its possible to change the aluminum to increase or decrease size.

good looking rotors Romero. 
I hope you can repeat your last experiment.  all hoping you are successful.

Rod
 
hello Romero

in the photo of your magnets are you NSNSNSN round the disc rotor?  or all polls facing the same way..
This one is NSNS 12 magnets/10 coils

Romero

I have run my generator NSNS. Is there any advantage to this configuration?  the wave for looks different on the scope. 
Rod
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 24, 2011, 10:20:53 AM
@toranarod
NSNS as I said before has advantages but cannot be used with backing magnets for the coils. If the magnets spacing on the rotor is large enough (at least 1.4magnet dia) then better use all magnets same direction, if the magnets are close to eachother then nsns is better.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Hitman on September 25, 2011, 09:39:36 PM
@romero
When tuning multiple coils, I presume you tuned for max voltage on each coil ?

My coils are currently only putting out between 2.1 - 2.4 vdc and they are very close to the rotor. I also converted 1 of my coils to 7-filer all connected in series and got a nice +14vdc, but I'm not sure if I should be aiming for such a high voltage since my input is only 6 vdc.

Cheers Hitman
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 25, 2011, 10:18:33 PM
RG1 few steps before mounting the coil pack in between the rotors.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: toranarod on September 26, 2011, 10:45:25 PM
very nice work
you have created a twin rotor setup, please keep us posted

I have just finish my new motor and rotor configuration.  just as you I have a few ideas I want to try.

are you using a separate drive motor  or one of the coils in the generator configuration?

 
   
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 26, 2011, 11:22:21 PM
very nice work
you have created a twin rotor setup, please keep us posted

I have just finish my new motor and rotor configuration.  just as you I have a few ideas I want to try.

are you using a separate drive motor  or one of the coils in the generator configuration?

 
   
Hi,
the coils are going to drive it.Later I will add coils on the other side of the rotors too.
The magnetic field in between the rotors is very strong and I must make sure the coils are properly in place. I have just finished covering them in liquid plastic.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: toranarod on September 26, 2011, 11:58:26 PM
good luck Romero
I am looking forward to see a photo of your finished motor generator.

I have gone back to the Adams type setup for my next round of experiments
I have created an anti coging setup with 9 coils and 8 magnets. been working on the magnet to core ratio. 14 mm core face  16 mm magnets 

 
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 28, 2011, 10:34:49 PM
RG1 after first assembly.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYsbwT6rWv0[/youtube]
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: free_nrg on September 28, 2011, 10:50:59 PM
Very nice work romero, good luck!
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 28, 2011, 11:19:24 PM
Motor Generator from Mark at Energetic Forum



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVZJOAFrp9w&feature=feedf[/youtube]
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: toranarod on September 29, 2011, 12:44:30 AM
Very nice work romero, good luck!

That's an interesting Idea putting the coils in the center and magnets ether side.
I tried something similar a while ago in an Adams design. at the  time my knowledge was limited to make it work.
may go back some day if my current research fails to deliver. looked like this?   
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: toranarod on September 29, 2011, 12:55:44 AM
Very nice work romero, good luck!

nobody can say you are not putting 110% into this area of research. your work is with question the most dedicated I have ever seen. you have put up with so much controversy and ridicule. 
if you get any results that are world changing ground breaking  Please Please explain it to me. I have devoted my life of spare time or money to the same cause.
great work
beast regards Rodney Wells   
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: toranarod on September 29, 2011, 01:29:12 AM
Motor Generator from Mark at Energetic Forum



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVZJOAFrp9w&feature=feedf[/youtube]
[/quote

I am very sad.  we all hope for this, dream of this and when we see it just out of our reach. Do you know how that makes us feel? Please don't tease us its to pain full
When will the day come that somebody who shows such an amazing device will just tell every body how its done. why is its always like this.
It looks so impressive . To you mark well done is it as they say beginners luck.
I am sad and excited there is still a way we can do this. you got the attention of Romero with this one. I saw it first on his post.]
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: landownunder on September 29, 2011, 08:35:10 AM
Yes rodney it is sad to see people put these things under are nose and not try to do the right thing for everyone like i know you would. The device mark has made would have been developed on romeros work lets hope he does the right thing and open source it. But greed gets the better of everyone, in the end if it was open sourced whoever released it would get there fame and fortune by going round the world explaining how they developed it to all the news companies.

Well done on your latest experiment romero looks good. Just one question if you could answer you could if you wanted make a device like mark and make it run. Will you please personal message rodney on how he could achieve this and let him put up with all the questions as i think he deserves to be recognised for all the effort he has put into the free energy area for years. all the best to everyone ron (change the world guys)
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 29, 2011, 10:12:20 AM
Yes rodney it is sad to see people put these things under are nose and not try to do the right thing for everyone like i know you would. The device mark has made would have been developed on romeros work lets hope he does the right thing and open source it. But greed gets the better of everyone, in the end if it was open sourced whoever released it would get there fame and fortune by going round the world explaining how they developed it to all the news companies.

Well done on your latest experiment romero looks good. Just one question if you could answer you could if you wanted make a device like mark and make it run. Will you please personal message rodney on how he could achieve this and let him put up with all the questions as i think he deserves to be recognised for all the effort he has put into the free energy area for years. all the best to everyone ron (change the world guys)
I have no time to add more work on my plate, I leave Mark's device for others to try.
I have a lot of work to do before I can talk about what is the plan with this new device.
Let's see first what is capable and if is capable to do what I am expecting.
Please don't replicate, this is just an experiment at this stage and I don't wanna be accused again for making people spend time and money. This is just another toy for adults.

Best regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: DeepCut on September 29, 2011, 05:00:06 PM
If you are discussing Mark at energetic forum he has now said there were hidden batteries ...
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 29, 2011, 05:08:24 PM
If you are discussing Mark at energetic forum he has now said there were hidden batteries ...
Thank you, I read your post on the other forums. :)

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: elias on September 30, 2011, 06:59:01 PM
RG1 after first assembly.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYsbwT6rWv0[/youtube]

That is beautiful work.  ;D

Romero
Have you seen my posts about the Watson machine on energetic forum? What are your thoughts on that?
I am thinking of making long coils, like Tesla suggested to increase L/R.

(http://www.eternaltruth.net/Science/Welcome%20to%20Bedini%20Technology_files/jon1.jpg)
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 30, 2011, 08:20:24 PM
RG1 after first assembly.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYsbwT6rWv0[/youtube]

That is beautiful work.  ;D

Romero
Have you seen my posts about the Watson machine on energetic forum? What are your thoughts on that?
I am thinking of making long coils, like Tesla suggested to increase L/R.

(http://www.eternaltruth.net/Science/Welcome%20to%20Bedini%20Technology_files/jon1.jpg)
Hi,
I have seen you posts on the forum. Watson machine is something to look at. As u can see it uses the coil/magnet arangement in Muller style. Longer coil is better when you have magnets only on one side of the rotor. In my current generator , having magnets on both side of the coil it does not matter so much the lenght of the coil. RG1 is similar with G-Field generator from R.Cole/Bedini.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: toranarod on October 02, 2011, 09:27:10 AM
Hello Romero

I have been working on the speed under load. 

There is lots of conjecture about speed under load, Lenz less generator and so on.
There are some valid points that have a big bearing on the speed under load.
RPM, frequency, L/R and so on.  I get conflicting data on the effects the more I research this behavior.  Seeing the effects on the bench are far from getting to the course of the Phenomena   

What do think the phenomena is based on, do you have any theory of your own that will add a few more peaces to the puzzle.

best RE Rod 
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 02, 2011, 11:02:00 PM
@toranarod
I know how to do it but theory is not my strenght. I am still learning more things while experimenting.

I had to strenghten my rotors as they vibrate at higher speed. Now all is fine, no more vibration.I have also built 2 more coils for the other side of the rotors.More to do tomorow, I have been working on it all day.Tired now, must have a cold beer and relax.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: toranarod on October 03, 2011, 05:23:26 AM
you have built an amazing looking machine the engineering is beautiful.
thanks for the photos it help so much when i am trying to understand you work.
I needed a few days away with family I was get a bit burnt out.  I am away with family at the moment
and not in my work shop. But I am still checking the forum every few hours ;D
good luck
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 04, 2011, 05:52:22 PM
I had to reduce the spacing between the rotors, 2 mm cut from the aluminium spacer.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: toranarod on October 05, 2011, 03:07:26 AM
can i ask Why
what about the space do you feel was wrong.   :)
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 05, 2011, 09:49:58 PM
can i ask Why
what about the space do you feel was wrong.   :)
I started with higher gap thinking that the magnet field will be too strong (magnets are attracting eachother) then after the initial test I realised that I can reduce it without any problems. Its easier to cut than add to the rotors spacer. It works even better now. Still working to build the other coils.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: toranarod on October 06, 2011, 01:05:01 AM
Hello Romero
I must ask. :)
is it accelerating under load? ;D

cheers Rod
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 06, 2011, 03:34:24 PM
Hello Romero
I must ask. :)
is it accelerating under load? ;D

cheers Rod
Hi,
I knew you will ask that sooner or later :)
It is not accelerating yet as I have not finished all coils but with the testings I have done so far its not causing much drag.
I need a little more RPM and adjustments. The generator part works beautiful, very efficient. With RPM below 1000 I can get about 300watts out. Now that I reduced the magnet/coil spacing should be even more but I have not tested. Not having all  side coils there it causes vibration and lots of noise. I cannot do any testing after 8pm because of that noise, sounds like a plane...

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: landownunder on October 07, 2011, 12:40:52 AM
Hi romero rodney and others chamalahad at overunity has just released this video which he claims may get more out than in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIlndSDIyGc

romero is this the secret to getting your device working the hall sensor placed in just the right position to cause a resonance on that driving coil which causes all the other coils to go in resonance and that is how you got a self runner?
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: toranarod on October 07, 2011, 02:17:55 AM
Hello Romero
I must ask. :)
is it accelerating under load? ;D

cheers Rod
Hi,
I knew you will ask that sooner or later :)
It is not accelerating yet as I have not finished all coils but with the testings I have done so far its not causing much drag.
I need a little more RPM and adjustments. The generator part works beautiful, very efficient. With RPM below 1000 I can get about 300watts out. Now that I reduced the magnet/coil spacing should be even more but I have not tested. Not having all  side coils there it causes vibration and lots of noise. I cannot do any testing after 8pm because of that noise, sounds like a plane...

Regards,
Romero


I am a supporter of your work. I search for the same answers as you. 
I am looking forward to good news. I wish you all the rewards you are due.    :)
Rod
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 07, 2011, 12:41:34 PM
Hi romero rodney and others chamalahad at overunity has just released this video which he claims may get more out than in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIlndSDIyGc

romero is this the secret to getting your device working the hall sensor placed in just the right position to cause a resonance on that driving coil which causes all the other coils to go in resonance and that is how you got a self runner?
Hi,

wait and see what else that setup is going to show. I am not talking about what I did and how I did it, we have to move on, that subject is closed.
Resonance is important anyway, even for the accelerating under load/short. No resonance then we have the normal unefficient generator.
I am not sure how other people are seeing but my view is that we have multiple resonance points and we  need to use the best one, maybe I am wrong but  its based on how I tune my toys.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 07, 2011, 05:56:26 PM
Someone sent me this drawings.
This person is also working to build a similar device just a bit smaller.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Dave45 on October 07, 2011, 05:57:27 PM
I hope you guy's dont mind if I put in my two cents, I think the hall sensor is picking up the E field of the drive coil in chalamadad's vid.
Dave
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 07, 2011, 11:13:04 PM
I hope you guy's dont mind if I put in my two cents, I think the hall sensor is picking up the E field of the drive coil in chalamadad's vid.
Dave
Your 2 cents are welcome Dave45  :)
The other coils will receive power with or without the magnets in front of them but having magnets the effect is multiplied.
That small basic circuit looks that is making wonderful things and that is not all of it.
Not long time back I used that circuit to control and induce speed under load in any coil. People should review that video and try to understand what I was trying to explain there.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: M.E on October 08, 2011, 11:13:08 AM
Hi Romero,

I'm a new member. Enlish is not my langauge. Pls don't mind if I go wrong. I'm keen to lean from everyone here.
As your mention you can get 300w from the generator coil. how many coil are used to produce 300W ?

And which parts are your generator coils ? the new two coid you just add or what ?

Thanks and Regards,
M.E

Hello Romero
I must ask. :)
is it accelerating under load? ;D

cheers Rod
Hi,
I knew you will ask that sooner or later :)
It is not accelerating yet as I have not finished all coils but with the testings I have done so far its not causing much drag.
I need a little more RPM and adjustments. The generator part works beautiful, very efficient. With RPM below 1000 I can get about 300watts out. Now that I reduced the magnet/coil spacing should be even more but I have not tested. Not having all  side coils there it causes vibration and lots of noise. I cannot do any testing after 8pm because of that noise, sounds like a plane...

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 08, 2011, 11:29:14 AM
Hi Romero,

I'm a new member. Enlish is not my langauge. Pls don't mind if I go wrong. I'm keen to lean from everyone here.
As your mention you can get 300w from the generator coil. how many coil are used to produce 300W ?

And which parts are your generator coils ? the new two coid you just add or what ?

Thanks and Regards,
M.E


Hi,

English is not my first language too. The generator coils are in the middle.
I have used 8 of them to get that power, about 60 volts@4.9amps. The input was high too. It was just a test to see what I can get at different RPM's. The side coils are going to be used mainly to drive it. I have 4 more coils to do to complete one side.
Today I hope to finish one side. It takes lot of time to make them.
I am using selfbonding wire but my heatgun is not strong enough and I still need to add glue for each layer then wait to get dry and so on... about one hour for each coil.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: M.E on October 08, 2011, 02:09:21 PM
Hi Romero,

I'm a new member. Enlish is not my langauge. Pls don't mind if I go wrong. I'm keen to lean from everyone here.
As your mention you can get 300w from the generator coil. how many coil are used to produce 300W ?

And which parts are your generator coils ? the new two coid you just add or what ?

Thanks and Regards,
M.E


Hi,

English is not my first language too. The generator coils are in the middle.
I have used 8 of them to get that power, about 60 volts@4.9amps. The input was high too. It was just a test to see what I can get at different RPM's. The side coils are going to be used mainly to drive it. I have 4 more coils to do to complete one side.
Today I hope to finish one side. It takes lot of time to make them.
I am using selfbonding wire but my heatgun is not strong enough and I still need to add glue for each layer then wait to get dry and so on... about one hour for each coil.

Regards,
Romero


Hi Romero,

Thanks for prompt sharing. Through your run test motor video I thought that the motor is  driven by middle coils so I suspect that your output coils are at the sides. Your device can be run by using midle coil as the drive coils.
Once you finish, are you going to test running drive coils with the middle coils ? By doing  that we can see the different. I've been around outside the free engy forum for afew moth and I'm very much passionate the lean from the forum. The attachment is my starting device.

Rgds,

M.E
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 08, 2011, 08:42:23 PM
@M.E
I am testing every option but the middle coils are the most efficient for the generator part.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: DeepCut on October 09, 2011, 12:12:51 AM
Hello ME,

good luck with your experiments - this is the place !

Thank you,

Gary.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Dave45 on October 09, 2011, 02:57:19 PM
Something you guy's may want to try, set up the magnets where they can rotate, maybe use another magnet setup perpendicular to the magnets to get them to rotate.
Just a thought.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Dave45 on October 09, 2011, 03:28:51 PM
If we look at Saturn's rotation it has anomaly's compared to other planets, and also its rings or E field look static, Im sure their not but I think they move into the planet in bands whereas the galaxy is rotating and the E field is not static bands but has kinetic energy moving to the center like water down a drain.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/media/cassini-062804.html
http://www.universetoday.com/23870/the-milky-ways-rotation/
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Dave45 on October 09, 2011, 03:37:25 PM
An important observation that needs to be pointed out
Quote
Viewed from ?above? ? what would be North on Earth ? the Milky Way spins in the counter-clockwise direction. Of course, if you were to view it from the other side, it would spin clockwise.
If you look at Tesla's pancake coil it is the same  ;)
I wont go on to much on this subject, Just some observations that might help with your motors.
Dave
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Dave45 on October 09, 2011, 04:09:35 PM
Ok I made one more model  ;D I used a muller type setup for the model one static one kinetic.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Dave45 on October 09, 2011, 05:37:36 PM
What made the Ramero generator go ou?
One clue
Blue Electric field
Red Magnetic field
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Dave45 on October 09, 2011, 05:50:23 PM
Also thinking about chalamadad's vid
Didnt you have a Hall sensor here.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Dave45 on October 09, 2011, 07:33:09 PM
This is nowhere near perfect but shows the coils and their fields.
This is just basic, we will have to guess as to how the fields are effecting each other, and interlocking with each other.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Dave45 on October 09, 2011, 08:00:28 PM
My posts may need to go into another thread,
Dave
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 10, 2011, 11:21:36 AM
My posts may need to go into another thread,
Dave
Hi Dave,
interesting suggestions. I have created a new tread for you.

Best regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 10, 2011, 11:26:12 AM
I have finished building the coils for one side and two more for the other side.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 11, 2011, 01:50:19 PM
Generator coils wired to the output box
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: kEhYo77 on October 11, 2011, 02:35:04 PM
Mmm, looking really nice. What's in the magic output box Romero? If I may ask...
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 11, 2011, 04:42:40 PM
Mmm, looking really nice. What's in the magic output box Romero? If I may ask...
Hi,

nothing magic or special in that box, capacitors, diodes and bridge rectifiers.
The output fron the generator coils is high voltage depending on the RPM but arround 200 volts/coil pair.
I am waiting for more cores to arrive to finish the coils for the other side.
I am also working on the driver circuits, not decided yet what circuit works best, I am trying different ones... lot of work still.
I saw your device, looks nice. What are you using to drive it?

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: kEhYo77 on October 11, 2011, 07:34:28 PM
Thanks. It is going to look even nicer when everything will be laser cut from 10mm plexiglass soon :D. I used to drive it with a small out runner but the axle broke off. A new one is on its way though. A little thicker shaft and two ball-bearings in that one. It is being powered by my lab PSU and I control it with a potentiometer hooked up to my Arduino micro controller board. I think it will be operating in up to 5 Watts range in my new, precise setup, so not a lot of power. I hope my generator part will provide more than that :) Recently I bought quite large amount of silicon steel sheets of 0,3 mm thickness so I will try to cut cores from those. Ferrite, although eddyless is also powerless ;) But I managed to get some acceleration effect before the unfortunate motor failure. First, with a soft steel nail (but that core alone produced significant drag to the rotor) then with ferrite (no drag at all) so now is the time for the laminated cores. Sadly in Poland no one seem to sell iron powder cores in the form of rods. It is hard to get ferrite rods as well.
I am looking forward to your videos.

I was curious if your box contains the same circuits previously used in your videos or something completely different.

Respect.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: landownunder on October 12, 2011, 03:48:46 AM
romero looking absolutely brilliant, keep up the good work one question if i may, will you show input output from your generator when finished or will that be kept under your hat ?  all the best ron
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Hitman on October 12, 2011, 06:14:37 AM
This is nowhere near perfect but shows the coils and their fields.
This is just basic, we will have to guess as to how the fields are effecting each other, and interlocking with each other.

hummm kinda looks like what the space-quanta modulator was doing no ?

www.hyiq.org I spent the entire day reading and watching videos especially this series:
http://www.hyiq.org/Library/S4T-Video-Series.htm

Cheers Hitman
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 12, 2011, 02:02:28 PM
romero looking absolutely brilliant, keep up the good work one question if i may, will you show input output from your generator when finished or will that be kept under your hat ?  all the best ron
Hi,

I have to find a hat first... :)
Still working on it.
Today I received the cores ordered now more pain in making the coils.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: M.E on October 12, 2011, 04:25:13 PM
romero looking absolutely brilliant, keep up the good work one question if i may, will you show input output from your generator when finished or will that be kept under your hat ?  all the best ron
Hi,

I have to find a hat first... :)
Still working on it.
Today I received the cores ordered now more pain in making the coils.

Romero


Hi Romero,

Can you share the source of your core ? and how are thier saturated magetic induction ?

Regards,

M.E
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Wings on October 12, 2011, 09:00:40 PM
nice document  :)

Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 13, 2011, 01:18:51 AM
@M.E
the source for my cores is here http://www.falconacoustics.co.uk/audio-inductors-ferrite-air-core-iron-dust.html?p=4

@Wings
that is really nice info. If you look at it is very close to my RG1.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 13, 2011, 01:40:28 AM
After about 7 hours working to make the remaining coils I have finally finished them.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: landownunder on October 13, 2011, 08:59:38 AM
@ romero
Beautiful job as usual, are the drive coils wound the same as the generator coils? would you let us know how you wound your coils or is that another little one to put under your hat when you get it lol. all the best with your tests hope you will post how well they perform. Input and output with no claim of overunity just the results here they will believe or they won't good luck and hope you get all that you hope for out of this thanks from ron 
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 13, 2011, 12:12:15 PM
@ romero
Beautiful job as usual, are the drive coils wound the same as the generator coils? would you let us know how you wound your coils or is that another little one to put under your hat when you get it lol. all the best with your tests hope you will post how well they perform. Input and output with no claim of overunity just the results here they will believe or they won't good luck and hope you get all that you hope for out of this thanks from ron
Hi,

the generator coils are wound normaly, nothing special. The driver coils are wound:
first layer 28 turns = 28
4 layers 23 turns   = 92
2 layers 18 turns   = 36
2 layers 13 turns   = 26
1 layer 8 turns       =8
            Total turns = 190

In/Out results are comming when I have them properly measured, up to now nothing special, just a lot of noise :)

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: landownunder on October 13, 2011, 01:33:37 PM
Thanks for that romero and hope it gets better as you tune it. I was just wondering if you have seen this video of slider2732 on  seven strand litz coil, is this somehow related to what you have achieved in the past and is it also what you now use with resonating the coils with the hall sensor. if you haven't seen it this is the link.  http://www.youtube.com/user/slider2732#p/u/57/vyipcAHQVTM it is an old video from about three months ago. would like to hear your comments on it please sir thanks again and all my best wishes ron
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 13, 2011, 02:36:30 PM
Thanks for that romero and hope it gets better as you tune it. I was just wondering if you have seen this video of slider2732 on  seven strand litz coil, is this somehow related to what you have achieved in the past and is it also what you now use with resonating the coils with the hall sensor. if you haven't seen it this is the link.  http://www.youtube.com/user/slider2732#p/u/57/vyipcAHQVTM it is an old video from about three months ago. would like to hear your comments on it please sir thanks again and all my best wishes ron
this one is not related with what I did, I saw it before.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: garrym on October 13, 2011, 08:25:15 PM
I hope you guy's dont mind if I put in my two cents, I think the hall sensor is picking up the E field of the drive coil in chalamadad's vid.
Dave
Your 2 cents are welcome Dave45  :)
The other coils will receive power with or without the magnets in front of them but having magnets the effect is multiplied.
That small basic circuit looks that is making wonderful things and that is not all of it.
Not long time back I used that circuit to control and induce speed under load in any coil. People should review that video and try to understand what I was trying to explain there.

Regards,
Romero

Hi Romero,

May we please have a copy of the schematic for the PCB used to speed the rotor?

I have tried everything I can think of with your original circuit but, because of the PNP (TIP42), the circuit does not rely
on the hall sensor to trigger the transistor.

My scope shows the coil producing AC and the base of the transistor begins pulsing due to the sine wave. The
hall has no effect in any position.

Thanks, Garry
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 14, 2011, 01:43:59 AM
@garrym
do you have the recovery 1n4007 in place? in between the collector and emmiter
Add a capacitor 220-470uf/16v from plus to the minus, no battery required.This capacitor will self charge then discharge cousing acceleration, half cycle charge the other discharge, actually is a bit more that half cycle charge.  Because the magnet is attracted to the core freely that part requires no power but we endup with charge in the capacitor. That charge is enough to push the magnet away and accelerate. With more of them properly set you can have a self runner.
 This is the easy option, without having a proper coil made.
Must work, I have tested it in many  toys.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: garrym on October 14, 2011, 05:16:55 AM
Hi Romero,

Thanks for the reply.

My cricuit is identical to your's except for the AC ripple capacitor you have placed near to screw terminals.

I will take a few scope shots to show you what I mean about the sinewave biasing ON the transistor.

Thanks, Garry
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: kEhYo77 on October 14, 2011, 08:48:56 AM
Romero, please clarify the meaning of a 'proper coil', please mate.
Is it all about the right L/R ratio or something else?
Cheers.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 14, 2011, 11:19:35 AM
Romero, please clarify the meaning of a 'proper coil', please mate.
Is it all about the right L/R ratio or something else?
Cheers.
L/R ratio is the most important but the core used is very important too.Anyone thought of a split core and what that can do?
When only one magnet approaches the coil, from the side to the middle of the core we should get enough charge in the capacitor to push it away then the coil fires for the other half of the core.
same thing happens with just a coil and nothing else.If the power generated by the first half of the cycle is not enough then we might need to  add more turns.

@garrym
take a capacitor 220-470uf and one diode 1n4007 and connect them direct to that coil.
move the rotor with one magnet close to the core and leave it to be attracted to the coil.
Check the power you have in the capacitor now and let me know.
What is the voltage generated at max rpm from that coil?
 What are the L/R values for your coil?

put one magnet from the rotor in front of the coil then apply different voltages from 3 volts up and see what is the minimum voltage required to push the magnet away.You find it then you know what you need

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 14, 2011, 11:42:37 AM
anyone tried this circuit?
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: DeepCut on October 14, 2011, 05:59:08 PM
Hi all,

i have spent ?90 on wire in the past days doing in-depth test with coils and cores. I am in regular contact with Thane Heins about this also.

Don't forget all of my opinions only pertain to my setup :

http://www.youtube.com/user/deepcut66#p/u/3/iSSOI6Yep_U

I find it difficult to get good results with ferrite, it provides good power but very little accelaration under load.

Mild steel has good results, even though it is not meant to be good for high-frequency (i am operating at 15 to 30 thousand RPM.

My best results are with the bolts from masonry shield anchors :

http://www.transtools.co.uk/store/index.php?searchStr=loose+bolt&_a=viewCat&sort_by=popularity+DESC&Submit=Search

I am still trying to find out their material composition.

I have tried the shields that contain the bolts, thinking that a hollow core may be good but it was no good at all for my setup.

Romero mentined split cores, that sounds very sensible to me so i will try it.

I have some laminations on the way for next week which will hugely increase the inductance and therefore the impedance of the coils, laminations realy help the L-R ratio.

About the L-R ratio, i find that, using my bolt-cores, i can get the effect from any coil that doesn't have a lot of resistance, even if the inductance isn't that high, for instance :

Wire diameter : 0.28mm
Resistance : 56 Ohms
Inductance : 75 mH

These little coils work well and the ratio isn't special.

Happy experimenting all :)

Gary.



Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Tony on October 14, 2011, 08:33:38 PM
Hi Romero,

Just tested your driver circuit and I have to say it works very efficient. To get a higher rpm I have to add more drivers. Maybe my coils are also not the best - you mentioned a L/R ratio. What would you propose?

Br.
Tony
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 14, 2011, 11:09:33 PM
Hi Romero,

Just tested your driver circuit and I have to say it works very efficient. To get a higher rpm I have to add more drivers. Maybe my coils are also not the best - you mentioned a L/R ratio. What would you propose?

Br.
Tony
Hi,
first tell me what you got now, core type, diameter, lenght,  magnet size and type...  how many magnets on the rotor, nsns or all same position.... all these are important.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Tony on October 15, 2011, 04:38:41 PM
Hello,
Now I finished the second driver circuit and I made tests with different coils. To your questions:
The rotor DN 100mm carries 16 pc 30/10/5mm N52 Magnets nsns.
I wound different coils with steel and ferrite cores, Liz- and single wires.

My best results I got with the coil #2 - with 490 turns / Liz wire 5x0,15 mm, coil size L/D 16/19mm. The core is ferrite 5x25mm from an inductor.
The measured resistance and inductance is 4,1 Ohm and 5,5mH.
With two drivers I am able to speed the rotor up to about 800rpm. The power consumption is about 45mA /12,7V. If I drive it with one coil I get just the half speed with the half power consumption.
The rotor turns very easy - with a small and cleaned bearing - very less friction.
Do you need more info or what would you propose - how should I modify the coils?
Many thanks for your help and
Br.
Tony
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 15, 2011, 09:29:16 PM
@Tony
can you please tell me what circuit is used there.Is it the one I posted recently? no hall self trigger? If that reduce the value for R3 and test for more RPM.I believe that the Q2 transistor is not opening properly. Disconect recovery diode 1N4007 for now until you get more rpm.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: garrym on October 16, 2011, 05:55:42 AM
Hi Romero,

826uH and 11.47ohm.

5v input @ 60ma 2800rpm 4.34v at diode

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGrG2biwrXc

Thanks
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 16, 2011, 02:31:03 PM
Hi Romero,

826uH and 11.47ohm.

5v input @ 60ma 2800rpm 4.34v at diode

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGrG2biwrXc

Thanks

so, finally it works, nice job.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Tony on October 17, 2011, 02:24:02 PM
Hi Romero,
I used your circuit without hall - it's very comfortable not to adjust this sensor all the time.
First to my previous test results. I double checked all measurements again and I found a mistake. The rpm I measured was wrong - it is in reality more than the double. To your proposal fewer ohms on R3 - it just increased the power draw. Maybe the Q1 - I use a BC548 works not so efficient. So it's now 1740rpm at 0,542 Watt.
The results from Garry are indeed not so bad. I used also an air coil from an old HD. With a single coil I got 1680rpm at 0,324 Watt.  L/R ratio of this coil is 1,34mH at 18,3 Ohm  - but how should it be?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqWDgzt7e4A

Br.
Tony
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 17, 2011, 05:08:48 PM
self trigger controller - no hall sensor
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: mariuscivic on October 17, 2011, 05:20:29 PM
I confirm; driver no hall works verry good.
12.70V 9mA 1100rpm with a small 12V relay coil
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 18, 2011, 08:28:51 AM
Hi Romero,
I used your circuit without hall - it's very comfortable not to adjust this sensor all the time.
First to my previous test results. I double checked all measurements again and I found a mistake. The rpm I measured was wrong - it is in reality more than the double. To your proposal fewer ohms on R3 - it just increased the power draw. Maybe the Q1 - I use a BC548 works not so efficient. So it's now 1740rpm at 0,542 Watt.
The results from Garry are indeed not so bad. I used also an air coil from an old HD. With a single coil I got 1680rpm at 0,324 Watt.  L/R ratio of this coil is 1,34mH at 18,3 Ohm  - but how should it be?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqWDgzt7e4A

Br.
Tony
Q1 works good with 2n2222. R3 better to be variable resistor.
'' L/R ratio of this coil is 1,34mH at 18,3 Ohm  - but how should it be?'' this coil is fine for generator part but not as a driver coil.
for driver coil 3-5 ohms is best for 12 volt input.

Romero

Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 22, 2011, 11:23:47 PM
Today I played with other toys.
I tried to see if I can get acceleraton with that window motor and it worked.
Very powerful magnets in that rotor.
I am also curious to see what a caduceus coil will do in a ferrite toroid.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 24, 2011, 01:42:44 AM
I have been working all day to modify some parts because of the rotors vibration at high speed.
All working much better now. I can run it to over at 6000 rpm without any rotor vibration.
I don't intend to run it at more than 2500-3000 rpm but eliminating that vibration we gain power, we draw less and the system runs more quiet too.
I should have had it done like this from the begining but this is how we learn.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: M.E on October 24, 2011, 07:13:34 PM
I have been working all day to modify some parts because of the rotors vibration at high speed.
All working much better now. I can run it to over at 6000 rpm without any rotor vibration.
I don't intend to run it at more than 2500-3000 rpm but eliminating that vibration we gain power, we draw less and the system runs more quiet too.
I should have had it done like this from the begining but this is how we learn.

Hi Romero,

is your design going to be the lenzless generator or the normal generator driven by the high torque motor?

Rgds,
M.E
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 25, 2011, 02:16:37 AM
@M.E
Lenz is going to be there but I am using it to my adavntage tot to kill the speed.
I am still working on it but when I have it ready or close to anything important I will post a video. Right now is in testing stage. I am trying not to use the hall sensors anymore. Self fire or optical is much better.
I am looking to implement a circuit to control the duration of the pulse. I know arduino but I want something independent, no pc controlled.
Maybe someone have a good idea on such circuit.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: M.E on October 25, 2011, 03:35:03 PM
@M.E
Lenz is going to be there but I am using it to my adavntage tot to kill the speed.
I am still working on it but when I have it ready or close to anything important I will post a video. Right now is in testing stage. I am trying not to use the hall sensors anymore. Self fire or optical is much better.
I am looking to implement a circuit to control the duration of the pulse. I know arduino but I want something independent, no pc controlled.
Maybe someone have a good idea on such circuit.

Regards,
Romero

@ Romero,

When start to optimise my driving circuit by capturing the recoil volatage as much as posible, and due to not having arduino, I had used the opical sensor with timing cam and  I can get the recoil power up to 60%.
The percentage start  increase from 35 % up to 60 % when I increase number of tooth of cam  from one to four.
Since everyone has introduced the lenzless on output coil, I susspended this test not further increase the nunmber of tooth and back to do testing on pick up coil to find the lenzless effect but not luck yet.
pls note that when I changed to use pulse from my sound card singal generator, the effiency of recoil power was not increased. I don't know this cound be due to my  pulse circuit from sound card was not sharp enough.
Do't laugh my device, it is not look like profestional.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: DeepCut on October 27, 2011, 01:20:11 AM
@ Romero,

the drive circuitry for the Bedini SSG used a potentiometer to change pulse width, pewrhaps you could incorporate that into your design ?
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: DeepCut on October 27, 2011, 02:16:38 AM
I hope you guy's dont mind if I put in my two cents, I think the hall sensor is picking up the E field of the drive coil in chalamadad's vid.
Dave
Your 2 cents are welcome Dave45  :)
The other coils will receive power with or without the magnets in front of them but having magnets the effect is multiplied.
That small basic circuit looks that is making wonderful things and that is not all of it.
Not long time back I used that circuit to control and induce speed under load in any coil. People should review that video and try to understand what I was trying to explain there.

Regards,
Romero

Which video was that please ?

Thanks,

Gary.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 27, 2011, 12:28:42 PM
@DeepCut
this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGT4ML4m8i4

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Wings on October 27, 2011, 08:18:11 PM
I have finished building the coils for one side and two more for the other side.

in the second picture you have large diameter far from the magnet, it is correct?

to capture the maximum flow the coil should be turned the other way as in this document on page 2-37

http://www.free-energy-info.com/Chapter2.pdf
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: free_nrg on October 28, 2011, 12:09:11 AM
Quote from: Wings link

to capture the maximum flow the coil should be turned the other way as in this document on page 2-37

http://www.free-energy-info.com/Chapter2.pdf
[/quote

 
I'm pretty sure the orientation of the coils in that diagram is incorrect. Muller style coils are oriented the other way. If you watch the neogen vids on youtube they will show the coils on the device.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Wings on October 28, 2011, 08:55:52 AM
Quote from: Wings link

to capture the maximum flow the coil should be turned the other way as in this document on page 2-37

http://www.free-energy-info.com/Chapter2.pdf
[/quote

 
I'm pretty sure the orientation of the coils in that diagram is incorrect. Muller style coils are oriented the other way. If you watch the neogen vids on youtube they will show the coils on the device.

my be !
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: free_nrg on October 28, 2011, 09:20:11 AM
Hmmm?  ???
Who built those?
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: kEhYo77 on October 28, 2011, 09:21:32 AM
I am convinced that the coils in those pistures are mounted the other way around  ::)
Think about it...
It is very efficient for a conventional generator as the flux is the strongest near a magnet BUT this way the rotor experiences the most of the Lenz's opposing force.
What we actually want is less Lenz and if the Muller coil with a thinner end is placed a little to the back on the core facing a magnet we can have that.
Less turns in the front mean a weaker magnetization of the core in the front when the induced current starts to flow in a generator coil. At the same time the back part of a core with more turns on it will be magnetized more so the Lenz effect is the strongest there.
Remember that it takes some time for this strong force to reach the front end as every core exhibits a magnetic resistance. This way we generate Lenz delay with a help of that core material's property.
Hard steel is the slowest, that is why some people achieve good results with hard steel anchor bolts as a core, for example.

What do You think about it, now...?

Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Wings on October 28, 2011, 09:53:04 AM
I am convinced that the coils in those pistures are mounted the other way around  ::)
Think about it...
It is very efficient for a conventional generator as the flux is the strongest near a magnet BUT this way the rotor experiences the most of the Lenz's opposing force.
What we actually want is less Lenz and if the Muller coil with a thinner end is placed a little to the back on the core facing a magnet we can have that.
Less turns in the front mean a weaker magnetization of the core in the front when the induced current starts to flow in a generator coil. At the same time the back part of a core with more turns on it will be magnetized more so the Lenz effect is the strongest there.
Remember that it takes some time for this strong force to reach the front end as every core exhibits a magnetic resistance. This way we generate Lenz delay with a help of that core material's property.
Hard steel is the slowest, that is why some people achieve good results with hard steel anchor bolts as a core, for example.

What do You think about it, now...?

yes if we want lag of de or magnetization this is a good idea

on the other side as pure generator .... more cutting flux more voltage

picture from

http://damfr.site.free.fr/totokoma/
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 28, 2011, 01:23:04 PM
@free_nrg
the coils orientation are correct. Turning them will induce more drag to the system.
I am happy with the coils.I am running it at slower speeds, below 1000 rpm and not bad results.
I am using higher voltage to drive the rotor with short ON time, this has increased the efficiency.
Mr. Adams was saying that using neo magnets will require higher voltage. I have tested it and he was right.
Today I will try to see how is it going to behave with 220volts/very short pulse to drive it.

@Wings
very interesting link you posted, thank you.

Regards,
Romero

Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 16, 2011, 05:11:04 PM
here is a mini generator, possible self running
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: garrym on November 16, 2011, 07:54:00 PM
Hi Romero,

Looks good but, are we to get any details on this ?

Regards, Garry
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 17, 2011, 01:26:18 AM
Hi Romero,

Looks good but, are we to get any details on this ?

Regards, Garry
this is just a toy and no special details are needed. it is not self running yet and I don't know when I will have enough time to finish it as i am spending most on the time for some solid state devices.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: garrym on November 17, 2011, 01:39:35 AM
Hi Romero,

Thanks for that.

It is, that I would NOT like to see you go through the same DRAMAs and PAIN as before.

Godspeed, Garry
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: JoeFR on November 17, 2011, 03:05:20 PM
Hi Romero nice setup

Just one question

Are you using no hall circuit for drive coils posted earlier on this thread?

JoeFR
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 17, 2011, 11:55:00 PM
Hi Romero nice setup

Just one question

Are you using no hall circuit for drive coils posted earlier on this thread?

JoeFR
I am using hall sensor, follow green black orange cables.
no hall circuit yet,I will add later for each individual coil except one that is using hall.
no hall circuit will use no external input for the coils, just the charge from half cycle stored in the capacitor, each no hall circuit will have its own capacitor and the surplus will be collected in one large capacitor to power external load.
this is the ideea, I have not finished it and not 100% will work but I am positive :)

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: JoeFR on November 18, 2011, 05:01:21 PM
Hi Romero thanks

I made this No Hall mosfet driver for pulse motor with Gyula help. The driver works very efficient and very similar to your posted PNP tranzistor driver circuit.
The only problem is that this circuit is very sensitive and it is hard to adjust, but I am working on solving this problem.

Here is the schematic:
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad43/JoeFR/Coil%20Shorting/NoHallMosfetPulseMotorDriver.jpg)


JoeFR
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 18, 2011, 11:09:45 PM
@JoeFR
looks fine but maybe a bit too complicated if tunning is difficult.
why don't you try my circuit, it works great. I have changed it a little bit to make sure will work on different coils.
initially don't use the recovery diode, connect it only when everything works perfect.
For small coils and voltage you can use even BD140 or TIP 32.

Best regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: JoeFR on November 19, 2011, 06:51:12 PM
Yes Romero I tried this yours circuit and it works great. I just wanted to make something similar with N channel Mosfet.
The main question from your experience is, what is better for driving pulse motor and BEMF recovery, transistor or Mosfet ?

JoeFR
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 19, 2011, 09:25:34 PM
Yes Romero I tried this yours circuit and it works great. I just wanted to make something similar with N channel Mosfet.
The main question from your experience is, what is better for driving pulse motor and BEMF recovery, transistor or Mosfet ?

JoeFR

Hi JoeFR,

if we are going to recover back to the same battery then mosfet is better but for best recovery we should use normal transistors and another battery and swap them or use a circuit to switch them automatically.
have a look at the picture below and try it, works great. if you have many batteries use them in series replacing Battery 2.
Before you start measure the voltage in both of the  batteries and calculate total voltage combined then after a period of time measure again and make the total again, you should have a greater total than the initial one.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 19, 2011, 10:16:02 PM
Hi Romero

I dont see the picture below?

JoeFR
done now... sorry!
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: JoeFR on November 20, 2011, 08:40:26 PM
Hi Romero

Thanks for diagram. Today I was testing both No Hall driver circuits, yours with PNP transistor and modified with N channel Mosfet.
The main difference is that with yours driver I get BEMF spikes 150V, but with Mosfet driver I get 270V from drive coil.
I am now testing your diagram and charging battery from BEMF spikes.

Here is the modified circuit of No Hall Mosfet driver which now works very good and it is easy to tune:

JoeFR
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 21, 2011, 01:39:33 AM
Hi Romero

Thanks for diagram. Today I was testing both No Hall driver circuits, yours with PNP transistor and modified with N channel Mosfet.
The main difference is that with yours driver I get BEMF spikes 150V, but with Mosfet driver I get 270V from drive coil.
I am now testing your diagram and charging battery from BEMF spikes.

Here is the modified circuit of No Hall Mosfet driver which now works very good and it is easy to tune:

JoeFR
Hi,
 I will try your circuit tommorow.
I think that D1 diode should be reversed, not to affect the input when charging batteries.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: JoeFR on November 21, 2011, 12:59:54 PM
Hi Romero

Here are the scope shots from yours PNP transistor driver and N Channel mosfet driver.
With yours PNP driver I get negative spikes of 135V
With mosfet driver I get positive spikes of 270V so is D1 orientation correct then?

JoeFR
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: DeepCut on November 21, 2011, 09:34:11 PM
Stupid question deleted !
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 22, 2011, 01:34:33 PM
Recent work.

The circuit posted by JoeFR works very well, anyway it needs more testing .
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: JoeFR on November 22, 2011, 06:53:56 PM
Hi Romero

I am glad that circuit works good for you too. Just one tip from my testing. Start the rotor with potentiometer P1 in middle position. When rotor gets to max speed you turn P1 potentiometer to zero ohms. The rotor will speed up again and then you use potentiometer P2 for fine tuning the speed and consumption. This is the behavior I get from this circuit.

I see you working on Caduceus coil.

JoeFR
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 23, 2011, 12:24:48 PM
Hi Romero

I am glad that circuit works good for you too. Just one tip from my testing. Start the rotor with potentiometer P1 in middle position. When rotor gets to max speed you turn P1 potentiometer to zero ohms. The rotor will speed up again and then you use potentiometer P2 for fine tuning the speed and consumption. This is the behavior I get from this circuit.

I see you working on Caduceus coil.

JoeFR
Hi,
I am always readjusting after the rotor got maximum rpm. It works fine, no problems but I have not spent too much time with it as I am busy with other experiments.
I am testing caduceus coil comparing it with another coil, identical lenght of wire but wound in tesla bifilar style. So far I don't see much difference, actually bifilar works better so far.Caduceus might work better in different conditions, anyway playing with them I get to understand more how to use them for the Kapanadze project.
Very interesting is that if the primary got more mass (thicker wire or copper pipe) I get better results. Looks that the mass is very important in capturing envirnoment energy.

Best regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: DeepCut on November 25, 2011, 01:42:22 AM
Yes Tesla always said it was the mass of copper that counted.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 26, 2011, 09:23:31 PM
Test with a DC motor and coils powering the generator.Good results so far...
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: garrym on November 27, 2011, 12:20:22 AM
Hi Rom,

Good luck with the RG1.

Do you think you may ever reveal the makeup of the coil used in the speed up under load experiment.

I am still keenly trying to progress with this experiment.

Thanks, Garry
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: M.E on November 27, 2011, 12:29:13 AM
Test with a DC motor and coils powering the generator.Good results so far...

HI Romero,

How is the different between driving by DC motor and the drive coils ?

Thanks and Regards,

M.E
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 27, 2011, 02:02:02 AM
@garrym
there is nothing special about that experiment, with the right inductance and the right speed everyone should have that effect.Using one of the circuits presented before the speed up effect can be obtain at almost any rpm, the only thing that might be different is the value of the capacitor, depending on your coil output.
I might make another video with more details.

@M.E
there is not much difference having the motor but I need to see if it can be done without the driving coils, circuits...
Everyone will prefer having the simplest setup.
The belt used is not the best option, I will also try direct drive, having the DC motor shaft connected direct to the generator shaft.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: landownunder on November 28, 2011, 07:55:09 AM
@romero and everyone Would you please expand on what sort of results you got from this comment please . "Test with a DC motor and coils powering the generator.Good results so far..."
 Would like to see a video of speed up under load at all speeds as you mentioned to garry with more details thanks very muchly ron
 
would love to see more videos of you just experimenting with different ideas. thanks again ron
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 28, 2011, 12:16:28 PM
@landownunder
I have been avoiding to put more videos because of the critics I got in the past and I don't wanna go thru that pain again.
The new RG1 is still not complete, I am investigating different ways to have it running in the best possible way.
I will make a video showing easy way to obtain speed under load at different power level...

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 28, 2011, 01:48:46 PM
Today I received my neon transformer, rated 5000v, I was expecting to be smaller but it is quite large. Later I will do some testing with it.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 28, 2011, 03:10:22 PM
The neon transformer has an internal protection for short and for when there is no neon connected.
I need to modify the internal driver circuit to make it working all the time.
It uses 2 x E13007 transistors running at 28kHz
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 29, 2011, 01:35:27 AM
I've got a new toy, works beautiful. I will use the old one for risky projects...
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: garrym on November 30, 2011, 06:06:27 AM
Hi Rom,

I should have asked if it was possible to create the effect with a monopole config, sorry

You better get a quick look at Nolan's replication before he pulls it -

44w in and 125w out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn2Z_Tp0cw0

Garry
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 30, 2011, 09:19:14 AM
Hi Rom,

I should have asked if it was possible to create the effect with a monopole config, sorry

You better get a quick look at Nolan's replication before he pulls it -

44w in and 125w out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn2Z_Tp0cw0

Garry
Hi Gary,

looks god but as usual lots of noise, I hate noise. No critics yet? :)

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Hitman on November 30, 2011, 05:58:42 PM
@romero
Can you tell us where you purchased your DSO, I've been looking for a new one cause the one I have dates back to WW2. I've been searching ebay for a good deal on a used one but the shipping on those suckers usually wipes out any savings I make. USB DSO is much more light weight.

Thanks Hitman
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: garrym on November 30, 2011, 07:23:38 PM
Sorry guys,

Nolan corrected me to show 88w in and 124w out.

Still a gain.

Garry

Rom, is it possible to get the effect with a monopole?
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: garrym on December 03, 2011, 08:31:05 PM
Hi Romero,

I understand you wish to NOT discuss the dynamo anymore but, this post from Nolan seemed to stike accord -

QUOTE -
No, Im not shorting the coil, the attraction pulse is wide and overlaps the center of the core, thus "braking" the rotor a little bit. This is where the high voltage comes from and it is usable directly into a resistive load, unlike coil shorting has to put into a cap. There is a FWBR across the coil and that is the output.
The core is made from Oregon Black Beach Sand, I got off EBAY, it prospecting sand that has been "pulled" by magnets. So it is highly magnetic.
I mix it with polyester resin, I use as little resin as possible, just enough for the sand to glue together. Then pack it in a PVC mold, cap the ends and put a magnet on each end attracting each other. DO NOT make a pourable consistency, you will be wasting your time!
As far as the dc-dc converter, I plan on it, but I want to finish the motor, I only have 3 coil sets. I still need to make 6 more sets, and all the switching for them, and money is tight!

END

Would a fair comment be that, the true output power is essentially coming from the drive coils ?

If you don't repond it is OK.

Thanks, Garry
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on December 03, 2011, 10:47:43 PM
@garrym
it can be from the driving coils but that was not the case in my device. I am always using the BEMF but not always in the same way.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: landownunder on December 09, 2011, 07:53:24 AM
@landownunder
I have been avoiding to put more videos because of the critics I got in the past and I don't wanna go thru that pain again.
The new RG1 is still not complete, I am investigating different ways to have it running in the best possible way.
I will make a video showing easy way to obtain speed under load at different power level...

Romero

would like to know if you could please do the video speed under load at different power levels before christmas. all the best ron
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on December 09, 2011, 12:57:04 PM
@landownunder
I have been avoiding to put more videos because of the critics I got in the past and I don't wanna go thru that pain again.
The new RG1 is still not complete, I am investigating different ways to have it running in the best possible way.
I will make a video showing easy way to obtain speed under load at different power level...

Romero

would like to know if you could please do the video speed under load at different power levels before christmas. all the best ron

I will try, at the moment I am so busy at work and at home...

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: landownunder on December 09, 2011, 01:46:20 PM
@romero thank you my friend ron
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: garrym on January 01, 2012, 06:08:45 AM
here is a mini generator, possible self running

Don't suppose you've had a chance to progress with this. Guess most of your experimental time
is going into TK's coils.

Thanks. Garry
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on January 01, 2012, 01:09:18 PM
here is a mini generator, possible self running

Don't suppose you've had a chance to progress with this. Guess most of your experimental time
is going into TK's coils.

Thanks. Garry
I had no time for it but soon I will, I need to move attention into a different direction for a while.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: garrym on January 02, 2012, 10:18:16 AM
Hey Romero,

I know you're busy but, if you can spare a few minutes, have a look at the tinman's take on this stuff -

http://www.youtube.com/user/TinManPower

In particular, his latest video.

Thanks, Garry
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on January 02, 2012, 12:03:18 PM
Hey Romero,

I know you're busy but, if you can spare a few minutes, have a look at the tinman's take on this stuff -

http://www.youtube.com/user/TinManPower

In particular, his latest video.

Thanks, Garry
Hi,
yes, that is another successful speed under load experiment, unfortunately not many people understood it properly.
System can be balanced to obtain maximum output with no acceleration, we don't need acceleration all we need is maximum output power without slowing down. The problem I always had was changing the load will change everything but with a fixed load system is not that difficult to be built.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Bill H on January 02, 2012, 10:44:23 PM
 HI Romero! I am just new here, have been following the forum for a few days and registered today...Thankyou, I really like your work.
 I saw one post where you mentioned you had adapted the AV Plug to your Bedini SG output. i have been working at optimizing my ss ssg and would really apreciate to get more info on the circuit you used. I am always hesitant to use more diodes than necessary in a circuit, but if there is a gain, them I'm game.
 Thanks in advance for any help.
 Bill H.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: sinergicus on January 04, 2012, 01:00:14 PM
Reardon lenz les generator patent http://free-energy-info.co.uk/PatD27.pdf

This design seems to be very simple to replicate ;because of language barrier was not clear for me what is the difference between classical generators and this...

What is the trick in this patent that  eliminate the lenzz drag?

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSj3KIHpx5Yy487L2je7oluUdFWV5TOrxyCue8f6qufEby8SMc-)
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on January 04, 2012, 02:52:54 PM
Reardon lenz les generator patent http://free-energy-info.co.uk/PatD27.pdf

This design seems to be very simple to replicate ;because of language barrier was not clear for me what is the difference between classical generators and this...

What is the trick in this patent that  eliminate the lenzz drag?


the trick is:
from the patent...
a- the smaller the wire size the higher the gains regardles of speed
b- the greater the number of turns, generally the higher the gains
c- the smaller the core size the higher the gains

a pure half wave is created

as you can see the trick is no trick, I have tried to explain it many times but who to listen?
anyone can do it and any magnet rotor will work if you have the coils built right
Lenz's law applies here but works for us not against.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: sinergicus on January 04, 2012, 04:56:56 PM
Thank you Romero for clarifying this. What is not clear for me is the ratio between the number of turns  and the speed of the rotor to achieve the speeding up effect under load . I understand ,the speeding up process taking place ,for a given number of turns ,just if you have a certain rotor speed.

If for the same number of turns you  turn the rotor below the certain speed , under the load , the lenz effect will act  against us slowing the rotor ..

My question is: is here a way to find some formula to aproximate the ratio number of turns/rotor speed  to obtain the speeding up effect under load?

Thank you 
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on January 04, 2012, 05:35:47 PM
@sinergicus
I don't have a formula, I always tested with different input voltage to increase RPM  until the acceleration starts.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Hitman on January 05, 2012, 04:20:05 AM
HI Romero! I am just new here, have been following the forum for a few days and registered today...Thankyou, I really like your work.
 I saw one post where you mentioned you had adapted the AV Plug to your Bedini SG output. i have been working at optimizing my ss ssg and would really apreciate to get more info on the circuit you used. I am always hesitant to use more diodes than necessary in a circuit, but if there is a gain, them I'm game.
 Thanks in advance for any help.
 Bill H.

I'd love to hear a reply from you romero if indeed you hacked an AV plug into a SSG.

Another thing does anyone know if the length of the magnets used in the Reardon lenz les generator was the same width as the coils ?

Cheers Hitman
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: sinergicus on January 05, 2012, 09:53:02 AM
trace_ru

Seems you understand much better then us the reardon patent.Did you have a working replication? Can you share wit us more details about your device?

If you think  Romero,s mentions about reardon generator are incorrect, please clarify the details  needed to understand and make a successful replication of this device...

Now  few times ago I tried to make a replication of this device but was unsuccessful.
MAybe I didn,t understood the patent correctly.

I  asked to Patrick Kelly   if he know somebody that made successful replication of this and he answered, yes,  from hearsay ,some guys  made successful replication but with   Reardon ,s help.
Unfortunately  mister Patrick have no  direct contact with those guys ; cannot help  me with more information's...

If some of you guys having knowingness about how mister Reardon can be contacted  would be a good idea to ask him for help...
Instead of spending time and money trying  to replicate what  is not understood deeply is much better to ask for help from qualified persons...we have nothing to loose .If the person will help , we will solve the problem fast  and easy....
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on January 05, 2012, 12:24:48 PM
@Hitman
yes I did use a SSG with AV plug, try yourself and see.

@trace_ru
maybe there is some more info in that patent that I did't understand but if you build one and pay attention to a, b, c  I highlited, you will have a lenzless generator.There is not only one window where the generator will work and not all windows are behaving the same, this part requires lot of testing but it will pay back for the time spent.
I tried most of Don Smith devices but as they are described will never work, everyone has a hiden part or info, it depends on you to find and undersstand it.
Personally I started hating all generators that are not solid state, I cannot take the noise... maybe I am getting too old.

Best regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: sinergicus on January 05, 2012, 03:03:39 PM
I don,t like the generators that having moving parts  too  but at this moment  the Don smith type generators are  not very clear to me in spite of their simplicity...

If you have the time,  please take a look on  zilano  mentions  about his successful replication.I uploaded ( in kapanatze threat I think ) almost all information's  given by zilano .On the energetic forum you will find just  a part of it .Zilano removed his first  and most important posts...

To save your time , you can access a word document what I made ,just with zilano posts answering to questions and giving details and suggestions about his device...
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: DeepCut on January 05, 2012, 04:00:40 PM
From trace_ru :

"However, it only works on a 'sweet' spot for a certain rotational speed. Moving away from that spot and you are back to usual. That is the reason a lot of mates still having trouble with the "speed under load". It is a real bitch to tune and maintain. Overall, the result's not worth the effort as there are better solutions."

I disagree having seen the opposite on my bench. As long as your frequency is high and your inductance is high and the resistance not too low, there is a very LARGE window where the AUL effect takes place.

Once i realised these three important points :

1. High frequency (>300 Hz, the higher the better ? I haven't found a ceiling yet and i've gone up to 1.25 kHz with both a Muller-style rotor and an Adams-style rotor).

2. High inductance. My best results so far were arrived at using laminated cores with spacers in-between to increase the inductance even more. The coils went off my meter scale (20 Henries).

3. As far as resistance goes, we use the extended L/R time constant L/(coil resistance)+(load resistance).

Point 3 is the tricky one if you have a variable load.


All the best,

DC.





Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: sinergicus on January 05, 2012, 09:11:48 PM
Quote
Discuss the theory first and then your hardware. Saves you time (and money).

A lot of theory are around these devices; all replication starting from a theory ( correct or not ) .\The only method to find if is correct or not is to make experiments.

The experiments need money and time .If our theory is good and our understanding is right we achieve success ; if not, we will fail and will learn from our mistakes....

Is easy to give an advice  to discussing theory  first ;the discussing cannot give the right solution  just supposition about our understanding of the process that taking place  .So in conclusion , the practice (if you like or not,spending time and money ) will show if the understanding of the theory is right  or not....
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: garrym on January 05, 2012, 09:25:37 PM
@trace_ru

I like you're explanation.

Can you provide more detail or ideas regarding -

(c)using the coil as a receiver for scalar waves. The most promising and the most difficult way.


Thanks, Garry
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on January 06, 2012, 01:40:38 AM
@trace_ru
I don't speak Russian, I know few words inclusive DA that is the same in my mother language (yes)  :)
Dynatron as presented in the youtube videos is not my cup of tea, I admit that I cannot understand it, I see things in a different way, I believe it works but as is constructed will not run for long before components will fail and the spark gap will need cleaning and readjusting.

One of the generator type I am testing and looking to build is different than dynatron, it is more like Paul BAUMANN -Testatika Generator in a solid state version.
I can visualize in my head how to do it and I can see it working producing lots of power, now I need to translate that in a real device... there is hope, I have some results but i need to test different materials...

As we all know we are surrounded by energy, if we can collect and separate the particles without using any energy for that and then combine them at any required frequency we have power and not just a little, like many peole will think...
Have a look at the videos below and imagine these experiments without any moving objects, that is what I am working on now.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzbAZ7eX_i4[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zilvl9tS0Og&feature=related[/youtube]


Experimenting is the key in my case, that is what I am good at and I love it, theory is not my strenght and I really try to stay away from it.
Most of the time I tried to experiment new things and used existing worldwide knowledge I failed big time, I would try and experiment even the most stupid ideas and that gave me great satisfaction and not only once.
I would encourage all to try every idea without thinking too much just try and make notes of every experiment.
Sometimes things are happening arround us and we don't pay attention.

I tell you something that I consider very very strange, a real thing that happend to me few weeks back.
I had to cut a piece from a long copper tube, I had no ideea what lenght I need, just a piece for a quick experiment. I did cut it on my lathe then I was looking in the garage to find another similar aluminium tube to cut a similar lenght piece from it.
I found it but just before I started to cut it I looked in a box I had many different pipes and tubes and I found one that looked close in lenght to the copper one.
I compared the two and I could not believe, the aluminium tube was identical lenght with the copper one, I mean 100%identical, I have measured with precision instruments as I could not believe...
How many chances to get an identical lenght when I have not even measured the copper one before cutting, I just chosed a lenght and cut... for me this was really strange and I treat it like a good sign... there is much more from this story.
What I am trying to say is that many times we get clues comming from 'nowhere' but most of the time people are ignoring them.

Some people might laugh... but this is a 100% real story.

Below is a picture with the two metal tubes I was talking abouth

Best regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: sinergicus on January 06, 2012, 09:17:12 AM
Quote
driving coil and generating coil connected serially to the load

Can you please, make a schematic to help me to understand this?

thank you
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on January 06, 2012, 12:22:12 PM
@trace_ru
I am also working on my version of Kapanadze replica but it is nothing in common with Dynatron.
It happends all the time, while I am working on something I get new ideas and I must try and see if is worth investigating more.
I have many projects in progress and I jump from one to another while I get stuck on one I will continue working on another...

Regarding Muller generator: I stopped that experiment and not willing to continue, I know what is the best way to have it working and in my variant we don't need more than 2 pair of coils to drive it.Of course we can have more than that as driver coils but to get it selfrun two pair of coils are enough.All coils are becoming driver coils while in operation but without external power applied to them.... this subject is closed.

I continue investigating all other experiments inclusive the RG1, the one with magnets on two rotors but for now Kapanadze replica and the newest one where I am trying to utilise particles in the air are my priority.

The schematic I posted recently works fine in selfloop but for now with no significant load. That was confirmed by few other forum members too.The problem there is that the batteries will be destroyed after a period of time and I am working to eliminate them.

Best regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Khwartz on January 08, 2012, 09:51:31 PM

I like power. A lot of power. This is the reason I stopped developing Muller's setup any further and concentrated somewhere else. What's left was a pretty device. Have a look at the attachment. I took the picture at the end of last year for a friend who was struggling with a similar setup. Frankly, I would have been better off concentrating on my other projects.

Projects like Smith's or Kapanadze's or TPU or VTA. So, I think you are on the right path, my friend.

Hi trace_ru!

So for now, as I could understand, there presently no device based of EM anywhere that could really provide COP >1.0 with significant power?  :-\
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on January 08, 2012, 11:43:23 PM

@Khwartz
No significant power gain yet, there are few prototypes but not very stable and needs more work done but hopefuly soon someone will have a medium (300-500Watt) power device ready. Some of these devices are very dangerous if left uncontrolled others are radiating all sort of waves affecting our health. We must be sure none of these are happening before something is made public, ready to be replicated.

Best regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: DeepCut on January 14, 2012, 05:19:32 PM
@ trace_ru

Please share details of your COP > 1.0 device.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: dllabarre on January 14, 2012, 08:23:20 PM

What I am trying to say is that many times we get clues comming from 'nowhere' but most of the time people are ignoring them.

Best regards,
Romero

I don't believe the ideas come from nowhere.  I believe we pick up thoughts of other people and we get messages from higher level Spirits.

DonL
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on January 14, 2012, 09:41:22 PM

What I am trying to say is that many times we get clues comming from 'nowhere' but most of the time people are ignoring them.

Best regards,
Romero

I don't believe the ideas come from nowhere.  I believe we pick up thoughts of other people and we get messages from higher level Spirits.

DonL
this is the reason I typed 'nowhere', there is always a source, the same with free energy, it comes from somwhere, we call it free because it comes from an 'unknown' place and we don't pay for it.
OU is not really correct  because we don't count the unknown source, we only look at power we put in and power comming out from a system and based on that we call it OU.
When we will fully understand all other power sources we might not call a device like Kapanadze OU generator, we will be able to account for all form of energy going in or out of the system.

Best regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: tchr on January 24, 2012, 08:47:11 PM
Romero

I would like to think that your comment of 'nowhere' is actually "NOW-HERE". Based on your experiments, and those who's posted, it is obvious that we are close to the energy being now-here instead of being nowhere.... Does that make sense?

A lumberman once told me that a big ax is nice, but it is the saw and small little bites that bring the tree down. -- The bites-size steps I see here (and am learning from) is going to bring the energy tree down for our use.

Enough philosophy for now... back to work for me.

Thanks to you and everyone for posting. My students (and I) follow you religiously!

the ole 'shop' tchr of 39+ yrs
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on March 30, 2012, 04:22:05 PM
Another work in progress experiment.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on March 31, 2012, 01:05:34 PM
Hi Romero,
    I see in the schematic you are pulsing in sequence from A to D using 555 and CD4017, why did you use multiple batteries rather than 1 batt. only?
   
    I've tried this before but don't  have the time to continue, my rig was only pulsing one coil in the primary, then the secondary
output connected to another (step down) coil HV side, connected to an ac cap, like in your schematic, then the secondary output to a fwbr and charge another battery, but i've never manage to loop it, maybe lack of time in experimentation, i'll get back to it if i get extra time from work... this circuit looks promising...ala magnacoaster... ::)...hmmm ???

Regards
Cc
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on March 31, 2012, 10:36:04 PM
Hi Romero,
    I see in the schematic you are pulsing in sequence from A to D using 555 and CD4017, why did you use multiple batteries rather than 1 batt. only?
   
    I've tried this before but don't  have the time to continue, my rig was only pulsing one coil in the primary, then the secondary
output connected to another (step down) coil HV side, connected to an ac cap, like in your schematic, then the secondary output to a fwbr and charge another battery, but i've never manage to loop it, maybe lack of time in experimentation, i'll get back to it if i get extra time from work... this circuit looks promising...ala magnacoaster... ::)...hmmm ???

Regards
Cc
More batteries in the circuit more relaxation time for the batteries, more time to self charge plus the bemf collected from the other batteries. I have experimented with good results using 2 batteries, now having 4 I should get even better. I hope to finish and test it tomorrow.
Low frequency is the key, if each coil is pulsed at lets's say 10 hz then the output in the toroid is going to be 4 times that, I hope you understand what I mean.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: dllabarre on April 01, 2012, 02:28:01 AM
Another work in progress experiment.

Is this based on the TPU?
What inductance or est. number of turns are each of the 4 coils on the larger coil?

Thanks
Don
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 01, 2012, 10:49:10 AM
Another work in progress experiment.

Is this based on the TPU?
What inductance or est. number of turns are each of the 4 coils on the larger coil?

Thanks
Don
It can be built using a normal transformer core too, I am using 100 turns for each coil but more turns should help. A multifillar will do similar results.
I am also building a mini version using super capacitors .


Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: dllabarre on April 02, 2012, 12:23:04 AM
Another work in progress experiment.

Is this based on the TPU?
What inductance or est. number of turns are each of the 4 coils on the larger coil?

Thanks
Don
It can be built using a normal transformer core too, I am using 100 turns for each coil but more turns should help. A multifillar will do similar results.
I am also building a mini version using super capacitors .
Romero

Are those ferrite rings?  Or copper wire cores like in the TPU?

Thank you for responding,
DonL
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 02, 2012, 12:58:31 AM
@dllabarre
ferrite or other type of cores, this is not like the TPU.



Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 04, 2012, 05:12:20 PM
Tesla switch -  circuit based on previous circuit posted. Working with 4 batteries using low frequency.
Toroid replaced with multifillar coil.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on April 05, 2012, 11:45:55 AM
Hi Romero,
    In your picture i don't see the second transformer for the output?
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 05, 2012, 12:47:35 PM
Hi Romero,
    In your picture i don't see the second transformer for the output?
the second transformer is not ready yet. I am testing the circuit to see if the batteries are maintaining the charge...
I have also tested with 3 charged batteries and one battery completely dead, zero voltage and I can see that in 7 hours I have 8.2 volts... the running batteries have not lost the charge, actually got a little more in them now.

The circuit is changed a little but I will make another drawing when I get some time, no bridge rectifiers used, only diodes between the collector and emiter. For every one pulse the other 3 batteries will receive the bemf, for one pulse in the system we receive 3 pulses back... I hope you understand.



Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on April 05, 2012, 01:54:42 PM
Ok i see you are charging via BEMF and with the second transformer added for possible looping...

Keep it up!

Cc
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 06, 2012, 12:49:19 AM
Here is the schematic used in my experiment. More to follow...
It can be used even with 2 batteries or 3 but we always need battery 1 to be in place to power the circuit.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 08, 2012, 02:52:33 PM
More info...
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on April 09, 2012, 01:03:55 AM
Hi Romero,
    Nice pics, what output power can you get? Or is it already self sustaining? A short video would be nice... ;) thanks for sharing...

Regards
Cc
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 09, 2012, 01:18:19 AM
Hi Romero,
    Nice pics, what output power can you get? Or is it already self sustaining? A short video would be nice... ;) thanks for sharing...

Regards
Cc
I will do a video too, ...self sustaining? I don't know, I will explain more in the video then you decide.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: garrym on April 09, 2012, 04:56:44 AM

Hi Romero,

What are you doing with L5 ?

Thanks, Garry
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 09, 2012, 11:13:33 AM

Hi Romero,

What are you doing with L5 ?

Thanks, Garry
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L5 goes to another coil via capacitor. i will show u complete running system...
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: dllabarre on April 09, 2012, 03:58:45 PM
Romero

I'm stopping at the electronics store after work today to pickup the missing components.

What is the value of C1, C2 and C3?

For wire sizes:
L1-L4 = 22 AWG enamel covered magnetic wire - solid?
L5 = 18 AWG plastic covered (telephone) wire - solid?

Thanks
DonL
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 09, 2012, 05:11:33 PM
Romero

I'm stopping at the electronics store after work today to pickup the missing components.

What is the value of C1, C2 and C3?

For wire sizes:
L1-L4 = 22 AWG enamel covered magnetic wire - solid?
L5 = 18 AWG plastic covered (telephone) wire - solid?

Thanks
DonL
The capacitors I tested are 2200uf also I have tested 47000uf, all worked good, I am not yet sure what is the best value.L1-L4 22awg is good , I used  6 wire multifillar 23awg.
L5 - I used plastic isolated wire recovered from cat5 Ethernet cable.
The way I tested is: before starting I measured all 4 batteries and made total, adding value from first batt with value from second batt and so on... Now after running it for a period of time I disconnect all batteries and leave them to relax then measure again all batteries and make total again. I can confirm that every time the ending total was greater, more than that others can confirm or infirm.
This is without using L5 and the second transformer or toroid.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: dllabarre on April 09, 2012, 06:28:43 PM
Romero

I'm stopping at the electronics store after work today to pickup the missing components.

What is the value of C1, C2 and C3?

For wire sizes:
L1-L4 = 22 AWG enamel covered magnetic wire - solid?
L5 = 18 AWG plastic covered (telephone) wire - solid?

Thanks
DonL
The capacitors I tested are 2200uf also I have tested 47000uf, all worked good, I am not yet sure what is the best value.L1-L4 22awg is good , I used  6 wire multifillar 23awg.
L5 - I used plastic isolated wire recovered from cat5 Ethernet cable.
The way I tested is: before starting I measured all 4 batteries and made total, adding value from first batt with value from second batt and so on... Now after running it for a period of time I disconnect all batteries and leave them to relax then measure again all batteries and make total again. I can confirm that every time the ending total was greater, more than that others can confirm or infirm.
This is without using L5 and the second transformer or toroid.

Romero

Perfect!

Should twist the four L1-L4 wires together before winding on core or doesn't it matter?

Thank you,
DonL
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 09, 2012, 06:54:50 PM
Romero

I'm stopping at the electronics store after work today to pickup the missing components.

What is the value of C1, C2 and C3?

For wire sizes:
L1-L4 = 22 AWG enamel covered magnetic wire - solid?
L5 = 18 AWG plastic covered (telephone) wire - solid?

Thanks
DonL
The capacitors I tested are 2200uf also I have tested 47000uf, all worked good, I am not yet sure what is the best value.L1-L4 22awg is good , I used  6 wire multifillar 23awg.
L5 - I used plastic isolated wire recovered from cat5 Ethernet cable.
The way I tested is: before starting I measured all 4 batteries and made total, adding value from first batt with value from second batt and so on... Now after running it for a period of time I disconnect all batteries and leave them to relax then measure again all batteries and make total again. I can confirm that every time the ending total was greater, more than that others can confirm or infirm.
This is without using L5 and the second transformer or toroid.

Romero

Perfect!

Should twist the four L1-L4 wires together before winding on core or doesn't it matter?

Thank you,
DonL
Don't need to twist the wires.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 11, 2012, 02:12:29 AM
Today I built and tested another verry efficient inverter circuit.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on April 11, 2012, 01:59:29 PM
Today I built and tested another verry efficient inverter circuit.

Hi Romero,
    Isn't this double battery configuration only doubles the amp hour usage, or because of the steering diode on each mosfets charging the battery from bemf when the mosfet is off?
    Can you pls. post some numbers, input amps with a known load like a 100 watt bulb, and what frequency at the output? might replace my off the shelf inverter if this is more efficient.  thanks for sharing... :)
Cc
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 11, 2012, 05:21:32 PM
Today I built and tested another verry efficient inverter circuit.

Hi Romero,
    Isn't this double battery configuration only doubles the amp hour usage, or because of the steering diode on each mosfets charging the battery from bemf when the mosfet is off?
    Can you pls. post some numbers, input amps with a known load like a 100 watt bulb, and what frequency at the output? might replace my off the shelf inverter if this is more efficient.  thanks for sharing... :)
Cc
As you know recovery back to the source is not efficient at all but recovery to another battery it always work very good.
In a Bedini or joulethief circuit we charge another battery then we need to swap them and so on...
With this schematic you don't need to do that and running from 2 batteries means that each battery runs at half the time and that is what we are looking for, check the attached document for more info.

I have built it as I need it to be part of another project.
Being so simple I don't understand why you are not trying it, you don't need to have the exact components, most N channel mosfets will work and the other parts I am sure everyone have.
It can be built even without mosfets, replacing 2n2222 transistors with 2n3055 or similar and modifing a little the circuit.
Transformer if you don't have  you can build one very easy with laminations or ferrite...
While idle, no load applied, the system consumes very little comparing with of the shelf inverters.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: cHenriques on April 16, 2012, 03:58:54 PM
hi,
What is the frequency?
In the document the frequency should be between 1hz and 10hz

How We can ensure that the drain corrent is 20% of the battery amp/hour capacity?

If I use your inverter to charge other 2 batterys and if I swap with the driver batterys I will have always all batterys charged?

thanks
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 16, 2012, 06:29:48 PM
hi,
What is the frequency?
In the document the frequency should be between 1hz and 10hz

How We can ensure that the drain corrent is 20% of the battery amp/hour capacity?

If I use your inverter to charge other 2 batterys and if I swap with the driver batterys I will have always all batterys charged?

thanks
I have not stated that this is OU but very efficient comparing with other inverters.
Unless you try you will never know... components used probably you already have.
In the previous version with 4 batteries if you run each coil at 10Hz you will have about 40Hz at the output without killing the batteries.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: cHenriques on April 16, 2012, 07:15:52 PM

I have not stated that this is OU but very efficient comparing with other inverters.
Unless you try you will never know... components used probably you already have.
In the previous version with 4 batteries if you run each coil at 10Hz you will have about 40Hz at the output without killing the batteries.

Regards,
Romero

I'm very grateful romero,
1 - In your circuit the batterys must be recharge by a special method like SSG? this batterys must be condicionated?

I have a little questions about this method:

2- if I switch on/off a lead-acid battery to a transformer in 1hz-10hz range, and If I rectifier the secondary to another
lead-acid battery if I swap I will have a self-charger system?

3- The 20% is the corrent RMS or is the real corrent when the switch is on?
4- The best duty-cicle is 50%?

Very thanks, I would like you reply me
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 16, 2012, 09:25:24 PM

I have not stated that this is OU but very efficient comparing with other inverters.
Unless you try you will never know... components used probably you already have.
In the previous version with 4 batteries if you run each coil at 10Hz you will have about 40Hz at the output without killing the batteries.

Regards,
Romero

I'm very grateful romero,
1 - In your circuit the batterys must be recharge by a special method like SSG? this batterys must be condicionated?

I have a little questions about this method:

2- if I switch on/off a lead-acid battery to a transformer in 1hz-10hz range, and If I rectifier the secondary to another
lead-acid battery if I swap I will have a self-charger system?

3- The 20% is the corrent RMS or is the real corrent when the switch is on?
4- The best duty-cicle is 50%?

Very thanks, I would like you reply me
Conditionated batteries will work better but after a period of time used withe this circuit they will behave better and better.
The secondary can charge another battery and you should be able to swap them and keep them charged.
About 20% is correct.
I am not sure if 50%dtc is the best, I am using 50 % now in the 2 battery inverter.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Hitman on April 17, 2012, 03:32:49 AM
@ cHenriques

I think it the same as John Bedini's SSG, he also only uses 20% of the batterys amp hour capacity.

Lets say your battery has a 10 amp hour catacity, so that would be 10ah / 20 = 500ma is the max amps you should pull from the battery. Using Bedini's vanilla ssg I've been able to fully charge 4 conditioned batteries with 1 normaly charged battery, the draw back is the rather large bank of batteries needed to power your house

Cheers Hitman

Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Tony on April 17, 2012, 01:20:30 PM
Hi to all,
Let me share my experience I made with the efficient two battery inverter.
Low power consumption < 120mA I got with the IRF540 / 2N2222 combination. For more power transfer the IRFP460 is better but needs min. 150mA. At the one battery inverter I used the BC547 driver and it was working well. But here with the two batteries it didn't work - so the 2222 is a good choice.

The second important part I think is the transformer. I use a high quality toroidal core one with 100VA/50Hz. My inverter was running with the original setup at about 60 to 70Hz. Now,  I increased the 2,2uF cap to 2,77uF and the 4k7 resistor to 5k and so I got about 50 Hz. In this mode, the Mosfets under a load of < 40W don't need heat sinks. In general lower frequency would be sure better but it wouldn't fit with the factory made trafos.

So, let's see how well we can condition the batteries
Best regards
Tony

Btw.
The JM-Pulse charger is quite good tool to recharge the batteries


Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 17, 2012, 02:31:22 PM
Good news Tony!

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on April 17, 2012, 04:26:42 PM
Hi to all,
Let me share my experience I made with the efficient two battery inverter.
Low power consumption < 120mA I got with the IRF540 / 2N2222 combination. For more power transfer the IRFP460 is better but needs min. 150mA. At the one battery inverter I used the BC547 driver and it was working well. But here with the two batteries it didn't work - so the 2222 is a good choice.

The second important part I think is the transformer. I use a high quality toroidal core one with 100VA/50Hz. My inverter was running with the original setup at about 60 to 70Hz. Now,  I increased the 2,2uF cap to 2,77uF and the 4k7 resistor to 5k and so I got about 50 Hz. In this mode, the Mosfets under a load of < 40W don't need heat sinks. In general lower frequency would be sure better but it wouldn't fit with the factory made trafos.

So, let's see how well we can condition the batteries
Best regards
Tony

Btw.
The JM-Pulse charger is quite good tool to recharge the batteries
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Hi Tony,
    Can you confirm that your inverters frequency output is 50hz unloaded or loaded? Is it really that efficient taking only 120ma with a load of 40w?  :o
    I'm starting my replication, I have the parts already but I lack time, maybe i could finish it this week and share my results... ;D

Regards
Cc
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 17, 2012, 05:18:34 PM
Hi to all,
Let me share my experience I made with the efficient two battery inverter.
Low power consumption < 120mA I got with the IRF540 / 2N2222 combination. For more power transfer the IRFP460 is better but needs min. 150mA. At the one battery inverter I used the BC547 driver and it was working well. But here with the two batteries it didn't work - so the 2222 is a good choice.

The second important part I think is the transformer. I use a high quality toroidal core one with 100VA/50Hz. My inverter was running with the original setup at about 60 to 70Hz. Now,  I increased the 2,2uF cap to 2,77uF and the 4k7 resistor to 5k and so I got about 50 Hz. In this mode, the Mosfets under a load of < 40W don't need heat sinks. In general lower frequency would be sure better but it wouldn't fit with the factory made trafos.

So, let's see how well we can condition the batteries
Best regards
Tony

Btw.
The JM-Pulse charger is quite good tool to recharge the batteries
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Hi Tony,
    Can you confirm that your inverters frequency output is 50hz unloaded or loaded? Is it really that efficient taking only 120ma with a load of 40w?  :o
    I'm starting my replication, I have the parts already but I lack time, maybe i could finish it this week and share my results... ;D

Regards
Cc
120ma with no load, this is what he meant. Most inverters will use about 1 amp without load.
It will be very nice to get 40watt out from 120ma/12volt.
My inverter consumes less than that as I have built myself the transformer and the primary coil is constructed for 48volt.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Tony on April 17, 2012, 08:11:04 PM
Hi Cc
The frequency varies depend on the load what you connect. More load drops the frequency. Just correct it with the capacitor ... in my current setup I use the 2,8uf cap and get 50 Hz at 25W load.

Yes, it is as Romero metioned - its without load.

I wish you good luck and best regards
Tony
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: cHenriques on April 17, 2012, 11:04:32 PM
Very thanks Romero and Hitman,

I will try this, I already tried to find overunity with switched battery systems but never with so low frequencys like 1hz-10hz range

If my batterys are already old I shoud use 20% of the actual capacity or the capacity that is indicated on the battery?

thanks
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Hitman on April 17, 2012, 11:35:48 PM
Hummm,

I have a 12volt 300watt inverter that I bought at canadian tire and it only uses 90ma with no load.

@cHenriques
I would use 20% of actual capacity.

Cheers Hitman
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on April 18, 2012, 12:52:59 AM
Hi guys,
      Thanks, i get it, I've checked my off the shelf inverter's draw, when it's idle, it consumes 240ma,  :( when loaded with a 40watt incandescent bulb it consumes 4.17A,  :'( numbers don't look good, I'll try comparing it with my project will post results soon and see how they match up...

Regards
Cc
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Tony on April 27, 2012, 05:54:33 PM
Hi Romero,
I have made a little modification on your two battery inverter circuit. So I add two resistors and a cap to get a lower and stabilized power supply for the driver transistors. Now the unloaded power consumption is less than 100mA and also the square wave signal is more stabile  :)

Best regards
Tony
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 28, 2012, 01:33:08 PM
Hi Romero,
I have made a little modification on your two battery inverter circuit. So I add two resistors and a cap to get a lower and stabilized power supply for the driver transistors. Now the unloaded power consumption is less than 100mA and also the square wave signal is more stabile  :)

Best regards
Tony
Thank you for your updated schematic, I will try it too.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on April 28, 2012, 05:22:37 PM
Hi Tony,
    So you added a 680ohm dropping resistor for the drivers, did you notice a voltage drop at the output? Thanks for sharing!
    Mine did not do quite well, I've breadborded the circuit and as I connect it to the battery the mosfet blew up   ;D, maybe i had a short somewhere, ill try to redo it again  ;D

Regards
Cc
   
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Tony on April 28, 2012, 07:30:33 PM
Hi,
No, I couldn't notice a drop at the output.

Actually when you swap the diode with the resistor you get a little bit better result.

Maybe you have built once the original inverter which is connected to one battery. With this circuit I got an unloaded power consumption of about 70mA. Don't you think the two battery solution should have right the same? I think yes there is still something where we can get 30mA.

Best regards
Tony
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 28, 2012, 11:04:36 PM
Hi Tony,
    So you added a 680ohm dropping resistor for the drivers, did you notice a voltage drop at the output? Thanks for sharing!
    Mine did not do quite well, I've breadborded the circuit and as I connect it to the battery the mosfet blew up   ;D, maybe i had a short somewhere, ill try to redo it again  ;D

Regards
Cc
   
What type are the transistors you used? Not all transistors are working good with this circuit. If you have use irfz44 or rfp70n06
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on April 29, 2012, 12:57:46 AM
Hi Romero,
    Yes I've used an Irfz44n, iknow it has a lower value than irfp460, but thats what I have right now, thought I try and zap! Hehehe...
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 29, 2012, 09:04:31 AM
Hi Romero,
    Yes I've used an Irfz44n, iknow it has a lower value than irfp460, but thats what I have right now, thought I try and zap! Hehehe...
irfz44 worked much better than irfp460, i used 3 of them in parallel in each channell for a higher output
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on May 08, 2012, 11:11:14 PM
@trace_ru
This forum is like any other forum, do you find something new in other places?
Why do you think I owe any explanation to you? I have never asked for money or anything from anyone and if you believe it was a fake then why do I have to prove it wasn't. It was too simple to be understood by most of the people, it looks that simple is not good enough to be believed.
I have built Ossie circuit very long time ago and yes it is working very efficient but for many people even that is too complicated. I am building what I believe it has some potential and many times I had to do it to convice myself if is running OK or not, many times I failed but I love what I do, even when I fail.
The fact that you don't see too much of my work does not mean I am not working or experimenting but like most of us I have many other commitments like family and kids...
If all you see here is something that you've eaten and already digested then why are you comming back, personally I won't miss you, I haven't seen any of your work or experimenting here or anywhere.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on May 09, 2012, 09:59:12 AM
@trace_ru
It is up to you what you believe or not, this is the same as with the tv programs, use the remote and change the channel.
I am preparing another surprise for you soon, not long before is finished,  it seems that it can produce more than it consumes... do I have to prove  that to you?  ... i don't think so, maybe I am right or as you said, everyone makes mistakes... who knows, people will learn more from the mistakes they do, I learned that I should never claim things that for most of us are impossible.

Lets's stop this arguments, I am having a nice day, don't try to spoil it, I can set the forum to ''only nice speaking members'' or ''decent only''  ;) I hope you enjoy the weather in AMSTERDAM!


Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on May 09, 2012, 05:39:11 PM
@trace_ru  - account deleted, enough is enough!
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: energia9 on May 10, 2012, 06:41:10 PM
Hello,
developed a coil in 2010 that i get back to because of its great efficiency with very low voltage input due to the tesla coil underneath it, it transfers energy in one direction very efficiently.
i was able to do some anomaly with this type of coil when two fast diodes were connected opposite ways and a 450 microfarad  polarized capacitor with a ground connected to the negative side, once disconnected all electrodes from signal generator  lamp was still shining just as before ,   one earth was connected in the ground ,  and the signal generators ground to the 450 mf caps negative side

however switching off signal gen resulted no shining bulb, so this was power going through earth,
still very interresting to note..
was able to perform this experiment once.  because after touched the movable coil primary , the lightbulb dimminished ,
and didnt light up again by changing the frequency.

thought would be interresting to share


Now im on a hunt, i remember experimenting with very low voltages with this coil was succesful, now im making some experiments with high voltage with this type of coil.   seems promising
will post results


Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on May 10, 2012, 11:11:06 PM
@energia9
Thank you for your post, can you elaborate more on the coil itself, direction of winding, turns...

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: energia9 on May 10, 2012, 11:54:38 PM
Direction of turns of the two secondaries are in opposite direction on top of the tesla coil  the two secondaries are center tapped, and spaced at about 2.5cm distance, secondaries are about ten turns each, tightly wound.   primary is about the same, and wound on the tesla coil too in the space between the two secondaries
its important to connect earth ground , the lightbulb wasnt shining if it wasnt connected
the tesla coil i used was made with 0.375 mm wire,  it was wound on an aluminium foil holder paper tube,  the tesla coils lenght was about 20 cm long,
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on May 11, 2012, 12:09:17 AM
This is what I am experimenting these days, a project called GAP POWER.  More info you can find here http://www.gap-power.com/
I can confirm that this is the most efficient device I ever built. The torque calculation togheter with the BEMF are much more that COP 1.
The only problem I have now is the overheating of the core (irondust). I have started building another coil with a different core material, I will try ferrite and mumetal.
Once the system will be capable of longer run time I will add a generator to make use of the torque created.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: energia9 on May 11, 2012, 12:18:57 AM

very interresting thank you for sharing. i did a couple of tries on mechanical things before,   nice steup there, neat,
definately share what you are up to with it.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: garrym on May 11, 2012, 06:37:35 AM
Bob Teal was the expert in this area Romero.

Last video of his that I watched was the "lost tapes of Bob Teal" or something like that.

Good luck with the ecperiments.

Garry

here tis -    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj7oD8JG5xU
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on May 13, 2012, 01:56:41 AM
My variant of Gap Power updated and now works beautiful, no more heat, the system uses 500ma at 24volt. It works on 12 volt too but with less torque.
I had to build a better coil and laminated core. Tomorrow I will also try mumetal and solid soft iron.

Youtube video comming in few minutes.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on May 13, 2012, 02:05:20 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GALNX54jDL4&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: garrym on May 13, 2012, 08:49:49 AM
Thanks for sharing that.

Garry
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: landownunder on May 13, 2012, 12:55:25 PM
Very well done romero thanks for sharing, as sharing is caring. all the best ron
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on May 13, 2012, 03:19:57 PM
Nice prototype! I've seen some of this electro magnetic piston motors, and with high efficiencies, and torque it can easily drive a low lenz permanent magnet generator head capable of power output greater than its input!
Keep it up! Hope to see some follow up videos! ;D
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Hitman on May 13, 2012, 06:16:45 PM
Excellent job romero,
Vibration could be minimized by adding or subtracting weight to your counter balance on the crank shaft or your piston magnet. I might have a go at 1 of these if I can get a break from work.

Cheers Hitman
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on May 13, 2012, 09:32:41 PM
Gap Power generator updated.
Running much better now that I have the heavy disc with magnets attached.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on May 14, 2012, 12:09:47 AM
Hi Romero,
    Your coil has two windings are they both used to drive the pistons? It's cw and ccw right?
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on May 14, 2012, 12:34:30 AM
Hi Romero,
    Your coil has two windings are they both used to drive the pistons? It's cw and ccw right?
bifillar coil, end of one to the begining of the second coil.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Hitman on May 14, 2012, 01:53:19 AM
I managed to escape to my lab today and quickly put together one of these motors, I used my 4000 wind coil first with poor results then with a bedini coil, less windings and thicker wire and it worked much better, now I need to change my timing method to something optical.... any circuit suggestions ?

I'll borrow my daughters camera again and take some pics.

Cheers Hitman
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on May 14, 2012, 09:18:14 AM
I managed to escape to my lab today and quickly put together one of these motors, I used my 4000 wind coil first with poor results then with a bedini coil, less windings and thicker wire and it worked much better, now I need to change my timing method to something optical.... any circuit suggestions ?

I'll borrow my daughters camera again and take some pics.

Cheers Hitman
Below is the circuit I used.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Hitman on May 14, 2012, 03:15:58 PM
Thank you romero

PS: was that a real picture of you posted ?
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: mariuscivic on June 13, 2012, 01:23:25 PM
Hi Romero

Thanks for your comment on my last vid.
The next step is to make it work using only the magnet-piston but not with a coil.
Just imagine that the piston magnet is aproching to another magnet that is on a disk (perpendicular to the magnet-piston).
The disk will have 4-5 magnets and behind them another 5-6 magnets to cancel the coging effect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8Y5uSxf0n4&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on June 13, 2012, 01:58:14 PM
Hi Romero

Thanks for your comment on my last vid.
The next step is to make it work using only the magnet-piston but not with a coil.
Just imagine that the piston magnet is aproching to another magnet that is on a disk (perpendicular to the magnet-piston).
The disk will have 4-5 magnets and behind them another 5-6 magnets to cancel the coging effect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8Y5uSxf0n4&feature=youtu.be
Hi Marius, very well done!
Construction of the coil is very important, don't make it more than 2-3cm long but make it as large as you can.
If you can use bifillar winding and make it close to 10ohm for both coils if series connected.
Adjusting the ON/OFF time sensor is very important.
I used a clear plastic disc and attached or removed small pieces of non transparent tape until i've got it right.
When all running I will tell you some tricks on how to use and connect the bifillar coil.

Success!

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: sinergicus on June 17, 2012, 12:10:34 PM
Regarding that pdf given by Romero now few time ago,The_Secrets_of_Building_Lead_Acid_Battery_Free_Energy_Devices_FINAL.pdf

I tried a crude prototipe to verify the concept...
The basic ideea was ,I quote from pdf: IF A LOAD IS SWITCHED IN & OUT OF THE
CIRCUIT AT A RATE WHICH ALLOWS THE
BATTERY TO RECHARGE ITSELF, YOU WILL BE
ABLE TO ACHIEVE A COP OF INFINITY


For this I used a little rotor with 4 litle neodimium magnets and a red switch made by myself...the coil was an average one used in the past in some SSG Bedini project ...the consumption of the coil is very low ,I think below 100 ma...is dificult to say because of low speed of the rotor ( aproximately 1 revolution per second) my amp meter readings jumping up and down )

Point 2...WHAT SWITCHING FREQUENCIES WORK BEST?
LOW FREQUENCIES - BETWEEN     1Hz & 10Hz   

For this, I set the red switch in a position  so , to have around 5 hz per second....
THe battery used was an 12 v car battery  60 amps .

So ,all my setup was a motor running  and switched on and of with the help of the red switch , at the rate of 5 hz per second...

Before I started the experiment the battery  had 9v and after starting the experiment, the voltage has gone down slowly...



So where is the mistake? MAybe I didn,t understood the explanations from pdf?
Did somebody tried something in this area ?
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on June 17, 2012, 12:27:31 PM
@sinergicus

First mistake is starting with 9 volts with a 12 volt battery, second one can be how sharp the switching is done

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Hitman on June 27, 2012, 02:12:58 AM
Heres something that might interest you's

http://youtu.be/RTmmLZpD7Hg
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on June 27, 2012, 11:19:40 AM
Heres something that might interest you's

http://youtu.be/RTmmLZpD7Hg
Thank you for posting the link.
I have never tried that configuration but it should be easy to adapt to the gap power experiment.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: mariuscivic on July 05, 2012, 11:29:02 PM
Hi Romero and everybody!

In my last vid was hoping that the coil piston will not act as a gen coil but i was wrong.
I'm going to make two identical coils wich slide in paralel but connected in series canceling way.
This way there will be no output from the coils . If that is true then we can really use the power of magnets; more mags we add ,more power with the same input power.
Anyway...this is all theory for now...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1PqUrcHaYs&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on July 05, 2012, 11:58:14 PM
@mariuscivic
Well done anyway, I am glad to see you still do experiments, most of the times failure will lead to to the right path.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: mariuscivic on July 15, 2012, 10:26:30 PM
Hi Guys!
 My madness is back  ;D

Please check my last vid and tell me what you think.
Forget the losses of this setup (friction and other things), is there going to be any lenz there?
The leds are much more brighter than shown in the vid (must be the camera)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qv6FwOI1EE&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on July 15, 2012, 11:12:33 PM
Hi Guys!
 My madness is back  ;D

Please check my last vid and tell me what you think.
Forget the losses of this setup (friction and other things), is there going to be any lenz there?
The leds are much more brighter than shown in the vid (must be the camera)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qv6FwOI1EE&feature=youtu.be
Hi Marius,

you will still have lenz but maybe you can use it in your favor.

All the best,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: mariuscivic on July 16, 2012, 10:30:36 PM
Hi Romero! 

This is the setup that i been puting it together today.
The coils are moving left and right but unfortunatlly the friction is big and is not working as i aspected. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdOuqKlGnBA&feature=youtu.be
I'll try a better version with the small hdd rotor
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: kEhYo77 on September 22, 2012, 07:17:11 AM
Hi Romero!
Here's an interesting video on some new type of generator coil providing more power with less turns...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MP_5MCPv1Y[/youtube]

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 22, 2012, 04:57:20 PM
Hi Romero!
Here's an interesting video on some new type of generator coil providing more power with less turns...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MP_5MCPv1Y[/youtube]

Any thoughts?
Thank you for the link. I know this type of coil also the magnet is not only one pole on each side. Each side has half of the magnet south the other half north.
Check the picture below for more info.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: kEhYo77 on September 22, 2012, 05:25:38 PM
Hmm this configuration of yours looks interesting. Is it wired in 8 pattern?
For a few moments in that video the hallow core can bee seen and their coil
seems to have a shape of a single loop...
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 22, 2012, 06:55:00 PM
Hmm this configuration of yours looks interesting. Is it wired in 8 pattern?
For a few moments in that video the hallow core can bee seen and their coil
seems to have a shape of a single loop...
Maybe I am wrong about this video but the coil I am suggesting is very efficient.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on September 24, 2012, 06:38:22 AM
Hi Romero,
I've been thinking of this 8 coil lately, is this the same with a caduceus coil? Low lenz coil?

Hi kEhYo77,
Thank's for the link  :)
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 24, 2012, 04:21:04 PM
Hi Romero,
I've been thinking of this 8 coil lately, is this the same with a caduceus coil? Low lenz coil?

Hi kEhYo77,
Thank's for the link  :)
Hi,

how complicated can be for someone to just try it? I know the results but an independent experiment will give more credibility.
Aircore should be used before thinking to use any other material...

Easy, simple and cheap experiment suggestion: take 2 wires with same lenght then from one of them make a normal coil then from the other one make a coil the way I suggested (eight figure). Compare the properties (inductance and resistance) from a normal one to the other one.

Regards,
ROmero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Hitman on September 24, 2012, 07:45:30 PM
Ok I just did a quick test with the type of coils you suggest but without your exact coil design we will not be able to compare results but we should get about the same results with scope shots.

1 - normal air coil
2 - 8 coil aligned with magnet ( 8 )
3 - 8 coil 90 degrees with magnet (oo)

Cheers Hitman
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on September 25, 2012, 12:06:50 AM
Ok I just did a quick test with the type of coils you suggest but without your exact coil design we will not be able to compare results but we should get about the same results with scope shots.

1 - normal air coil
2 - 8 coil aligned with magnet ( 8 )
3 - 8 coil 90 degrees with magnet (oo)

Cheers Hitman

Hi Hitman,
That's a  quick one!  ;D Interesting  scope shots, can you post voltage & current measurements with your set up?

Regards
Cc
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 25, 2012, 12:43:41 AM
@Hitman
Can you please short the coils while in operation and compare or see if any difference? Instead of a direct short use an amp meter if you have.

Thank you,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Hitman on September 25, 2012, 04:15:09 AM
Like I said it was a quickie, just to see if it would produce anything out of the ordinary. The figure 8 coil only had 12 feet of wire on it and was very loose due to the way I had wound it, I made a quick jig with 2 ferrite rods and a piece of wood.
The problem with that is the wire kept pushing upwards, any suggestions on the figure 8 coil construction might encourage me to construct a new one but right now I'm working on 2 other projects + family + job + I'm old :)

I can take all the readings you wish as soon as I fix one of my multimeters hehe, I only have 1 working analog dc volt meter and 1 analog amp meter which is on the 5 amp scale and with the size of the coil I don't think it will show anything.
Maybe change their batteries :0 I will get to it, I won't have a choice soon ......

Tip of the day:
don't use salt in your electrolyte.

Cheers Hitman
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: kEhYo77 on September 25, 2012, 03:52:49 PM
This is Vesper's new rotor and looking at the magnets' configuration it is similar to what You, Romero, have just shown us in the drawing.

(http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af178/vesperhbtmotor/Newtestrotor3.jpg)
Quote
What you see above is a 16 magnet rotor it is 1.25" thick and 16" across. the magnets are 1"x1"x1" round. In special designed holders to support 2 magnet positions and 360 deg rotation. All this set upon robust bearings. It is a balanced rotor. Total weight Ill get when it is done. the magnet holders are held in place by nylon bolts


There might be something to it...
The coil's core is still a mystery... They say it is not air.

Now, a question to You, Romero. Is the figure 8 necessary or can we just use 2 coils in series CW+CCW?
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 26, 2012, 12:07:36 AM
@kEhYo77
the coil must be built in the 8 figure to get the results I am talking about.I was suggesting air core for simplicity but using ferrite will show much better results.
While you build the coil you will start to understand why the figure of 8 is different than 2 independent coils.

Unusual effects in coils can be found in: where few turns at the begining are wound in one direction then most of the coil in oposite direction then at the end we switch direction again with the same number of turns used to start the coil.
EX: CW 30 turns, CCW 300 turns, CW 30 turns
This type of coil can be used in solid state configuration too.
This is just an example but coils can be made to have self amplification or self power effect but that is not to be discussed now.
If someone can view and separate the electric field from the magnetic field then you can build coils that will manifest no lenz.

Anyway, happy experimenting! :)

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on September 26, 2012, 12:59:38 AM
@kEhYo77
the coil must be built in the 8 figure to get the results I am talking about.I was suggesting air core for simplicity but using ferrite will show much better results.
While you build the coil you will start to understand why the figure of 8 is different than 2 independent coils.

Unusual effects in coils can be found in: where few turns at the begining are wound in one direction then most of the coil in oposite direction then at the end we switch direction again with the same number of turns used to start the coil.
EX: CW 30 turns, CCW 300 turns, CW 30 turns
This type of coil can be used in solid state configuration too.
This is just an example but coils can be made to have self amplification or self power effect but that is not to be discussed now.
If someone can view and separate the electric field from the magnetic field then you can build coils that will manifest no lenz.

Anyway, happy experimenting! :)

Regards,
Romero

Hi Romero,
I have not tried this but surely will, what I did was 200 turns cw & 100 ccw I did not took notes of the results, but now I will to compare different coils  ;D still no scope  :-[ but soon!

Thanks!

Regards Cc
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: kEhYo77 on September 26, 2012, 03:35:30 AM
Thanks Romero!
Now, this info is very encouraging and I'll do some experiments soon on that but I'd really like to know more about the coil's self amplification
because that is what those guys are doing, I guess  ;D

Cheers!
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 26, 2012, 12:02:25 PM
Thanks Romero!
Now, this info is very encouraging and I'll do some experiments soon on that but I'd really like to know more about the coil's self amplification
because that is what those guys are doing, I guess  ;D

Cheers!
Please do simple experiments before you start spending money into something more complex.
Looking in the past, many of my suggestions attracted loads of critics and I was acused that I am making people spend money for something that 'is not possible to work'...

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on September 27, 2012, 04:14:00 PM
Hi all,
I've done a test on the coil Romero suggested, 1st layer 30 turns cw, 2nd 100 ccw, 3rd 30 cw, voltage output is 1.4vac, before I rewound this coil, it is all 160 turns cw, and the output is 3vac, almost half of the output was reduced with the suggested coil... ??? What to do next?

Regards
Cc
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 27, 2012, 10:20:03 PM
Hi all,
I've done a test on the coil Romero suggested, 1st layer 30 turns cw, 2nd 100 ccw, 3rd 30 cw, voltage output is 1.4vac, before I rewound this coil, it is all 160 turns cw, and the output is 3vac, almost half of the output was reduced with the suggested coil... ??? What to do next?

Regards
Cc
please have a look again to my example 30;300;30 you should understand the basic formula. It is not about the amount of voltage you get but about the amount of power also must put this together with other statements i've made before. I really don't want to continue talking about this.
Please draw the coil on a piece of paper and have a look at it, that is my way to see things clearly.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on September 28, 2012, 12:35:05 AM
Hi all,
I've done a test on the coil Romero suggested, 1st layer 30 turns cw, 2nd 100 ccw, 3rd 30 cw, voltage output is 1.4vac, before I rewound this coil, it is all 160 turns cw, and the output is 3vac, almost half of the output was reduced with the suggested coil... ??? What to do next?

Regards
Cc
please have a look again to my example 30;300;30 you should understand the basic formula. It is not about the amount of voltage you get but about the amount of power also must put this together with other statements i've made before. I really don't want to continue talking about this.
Please draw the coil on a piece of paper and have a look at it, that is my way to see things clearly.

Regards,
Romero

Sorry to sound depressed but I'm not, really greatefull that you continue teaching us, pls. ignore me, co'z im having a hard time translating my native language lol  ;D that test was just a quick one, ill do what you say, I have two types of winding in mind will try it both, will post results... Thanks!

Regards
Cc
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on October 11, 2012, 02:56:11 PM
Hi Romero,
You are right about this type of coil, it's not about the voltage, i have 1 coil pair with small backing magnets, that gives out 6.2vac when connected to a fwbr and cap it gives out 13vdc not loaded, i tried to connect the gen.output to the drive input from the amp meter, battery voltage went up just a small amount from 11.79v to 11.80v, then draw went down to 41A to 40A and rotor speeds up a bit from 1190 to 1200 rpm, but with bulb as load its a different story, mr.lenz appears! what do you think is happening? what I understand is that the reverse winding catches the BEMF of the middle coil? where the spikes gives the boost to the voltage?

Regards
Cc
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Hitman on October 11, 2012, 03:56:09 PM

please have a look again to my example 30;300;30 you should understand the basic formula. It is not about the amount of voltage you get but about the amount of power also must put this together with other statements i've made before. I really don't want to continue talking about this.
Please draw the coil on a piece of paper and have a look at it, that is my way to see things clearly.

Regards,
Romero

I don't understand why you want us to try and make this coil and yet you don't wish to talk about it. if its a question of fear, just let me know and I'll tell the world, I don't have much time left here and I really don't wanna leave without knowing that my children and the children of the world have something to look forward too.

Regards Hitman
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 11, 2012, 08:00:38 PM

please have a look again to my example 30;300;30 you should understand the basic formula. It is not about the amount of voltage you get but about the amount of power also must put this together with other statements i've made before. I really don't want to continue talking about this.
Please draw the coil on a piece of paper and have a look at it, that is my way to see things clearly.

Regards,
Romero

I don't understand why you want us to try and make this coil and yet you don't wish to talk about it. if its a question of fear, just let me know and I'll tell the world, I don't have much time left here and I really don't wanna leave without knowing that my children and the children of the world have something to look forward too.

Regards Hitman
Unfortunately I am not capable to offer step by step instructions.
People are expecting an answer to questions I don't have answers for... all I have are only parts of the domino but not the entire game.

Best regrads,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: DeepCut on November 07, 2012, 12:46:07 PM
All these things, whether on a rotor or a drum or a transformer-pair or a small motor driving a generator, all these things are about the power factor, and, as Romero said, seperating the fields,.

There are a few people claiming OU by driving a large generator with a small motor. In this case the two are out of phase, in other words, the fields are seperated.

The same thing is happening in a rotor with acceleration-under-load coils.

I advise people to do what i have done, take a year off the forums and singularly pursue very small, basic experiments.

Also, with pulse motors, it's very important to understand EXACTLY what is going on when the magnetic field cuts the coil on entry, gets to halfway, and then cuts the coil on exit.

And watch the OUG videos (archived on my uoutube channel) and use the time constant to predict device behaviour.

Simulate before you build !

If anyone is interested i have made a few small spreadsheets and programs to help with all of this.

Kind regards,

DC.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on November 07, 2012, 01:55:06 PM
Pls. Enlighten us more....
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: DeepCut on November 14, 2012, 07:34:10 PM
Pls. Enlighten us more....

Sorry i didn't mean to sound mysterious :)

I just did a long reply to you and then got told i couldn't attach an XLS (Excel) file then i pressed back and lost the reply :(

I have been exploring the acceleration under load effect for a year or so.

I found Thane Heins' stuff very helpful, his youtube channel is down now :(

The basic idea is that you increase the inductance of your coils so that the rise time of the CEMF is longer and the magnet gets beyond TDC just as the rise time peaks and the magnet is accelerated.

I've attached one of my spreadsheets, you input your coil, magnet and rotor properties, it tells you the rise time (time constant), how far the magnet will travel within the rise time and more useful stuff.

So the effect doesn't break any laws of physics, it works and it's easily achieved.

It's also additive, more coils equals more acceleration.

I have been taking time out to brush up on maths and electronics and i've written some programmes to help with simulation before building something new.

My youtube channel is here, i also archived OUG's videos :

https://www.youtube.com/user/deepcut66?feature=mhee

All the best,

DC.

Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 14, 2012, 09:07:27 PM
Pls. Enlighten us more....

Sorry i didn't mean to sound mysterious :)

I just did a long reply to you and then got told i couldn't attach an XLS (Excel) file then i pressed back and lost the reply :(

I have been exploring the acceleration under load effect for a year or so.

I found Thane Heins' stuff very helpful, his youtube channel is down now :(

The basic idea is that you increase the inductance of your coils so that the rise time of the CEMF is longer and the magnet gets beyond TDC just as the rise time peaks and the magnet is accelerated.

I've attached one of my spreadsheets, you input your coil, magnet and rotor properties, it tells you the rise time (time constant), how far the magnet will travel within the rise time and more useful stuff.

So the effect doesn't break any laws of physics, it works and it's easily achieved.

It's also additive, more coils equals more acceleration.

I have been taking time out to brush up on maths and electronics and i've written some programmes to help with simulation before building something new.

My youtube channel is here, i also archived OUG's videos :

https://www.youtube.com/user/deepcut66?feature=mhee

All the best,

DC.
Nice to see that there are still people working on this.
Attached below is a picture with 2 toroidal transformers I am using in one of my experiments.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on November 15, 2012, 04:48:57 AM
I also thought you've been mysterious lately  ;D Bdw Thanks DC for sharing, i admire your dedication on this, so keep it coming, can't wait to see a selfrunner again!

@Romero,
How do you plan to use that 2 toroids?
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: DeepCut on November 15, 2012, 04:26:56 PM
Very sexy transformers :)

Utilising the same concept, high current primary, high impedance secondary ?


All the best,

DC.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on December 21, 2012, 11:09:37 PM
Kapanadze project under test. Video will follow when testing is complete.

Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on December 21, 2012, 11:55:08 PM
Can't wait for the video, your setup looks promising!
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on January 02, 2013, 03:36:26 PM
People who are looking to experiment recent JLNaudin video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI07DLlG3Qg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI07DLlG3Qg) can buy the induction cooker for ?29.99 at Maplins http://www.maplin.co.uk/2kw-induction-cooker-636623
I have already experimented with it and I am in the process to use some of the output power back to input. Possible video tonight.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on January 03, 2013, 12:16:25 AM
JL Naudin replication Block diagram.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8_zj4cRXYk&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: aaron5120 on January 03, 2013, 03:16:33 AM
That i quite interesting your setup, I hope you can get it self-running. I also have induction cooker stove, but mine has a iron pot sensor. It turns off automatically if there is not a ferrous container placed on top of the stove.
Do you know how to disable this sensor?

aaron5120
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: landownunder on January 03, 2013, 07:35:33 AM
Well done romero good to see you getting your hands dirty again love your videos. Gotoluc has posted a link at overunity hope all the trolls are not watching to stir the pot all my best wishes to you and family ron
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on January 03, 2013, 11:11:13 AM
Hi Romero,
Nice video, just curious, have you tried using an earth ground? Maybe to enhance the output?
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on January 03, 2013, 12:04:27 PM
That i quite interesting your setup, I hope you can get it self-running. I also have induction cooker stove, but mine has a iron pot sensor. It turns off automatically if there is not a ferrous container placed on top of the stove.
Do you know how to disable this sensor?

aaron5120
if you increase the load it should stay on, I had the same problem but after the load was increased it worked fine.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on January 03, 2013, 12:06:11 PM
Hi Romero,
Nice video, just curious, have you tried using an earth ground? Maybe to enhance the output?
ground connection tested too but no difference, it gives a small spark but nothing interesting
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on January 03, 2013, 12:08:03 PM
Well done romero good to see you getting your hands dirty again love your videos. Gotoluc has posted a link at overunity hope all the trolls are not watching to stir the pot all my best wishes to you and family ron
Hi,
my hands are always 'dirty'. I have answered gotoluc on youtube.

Best regards to you too,

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on January 03, 2013, 04:29:35 PM
One inverter like this one here can be used with input power of up to 500volts DC
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Chint-1-5-kW-Grid-Tie-PV-Solar-Inverter-/251206687321?pt=UK_Gadgets&hash=item3a7d15da59
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: aaron5120 on January 04, 2013, 03:03:52 AM
if you increase the load it should stay on, I had the same problem but after the load was increased it worked fine.
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Thanks Romero, I will get an inverter and try the experiment. Hope it will not ruin the stove, otherwise my wife will beat the cr*p out of me !!
aaron5120
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: landownunder on January 04, 2013, 04:15:45 AM
Hi romero and everyone interesting experiment by Woopy  have  a look comments here welcome all the best ron                                                                                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=LbAhUwHvJCE
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: landownunder on January 08, 2013, 01:42:12 PM
another interesting video by jean naudin
trying to loop enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OlLRrTSvYU
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on January 09, 2013, 12:26:24 AM
another interesting video by jean naudin
trying to loop enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OlLRrTSvYU
this is an exact replication to my last video using the inverter. As I said before, this will never be a self run system but based on the idea it can be adapted.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on January 09, 2013, 04:54:46 AM
Hi Romero,
But what if you reduce or remove all loads just the cooker and the inverter? Posible?  ;)
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on January 09, 2013, 01:21:37 PM
Hi Romero,
But what if you reduce or remove all loads just the cooker and the inverter? Posible?  ;)
still not possible, it will not start if there is no heavy load but with an inverter that accepts 200-500 volt input then it might wprk. I posted a link before for an inverter that is possible to work.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on January 14, 2013, 01:03:11 AM
Hi Romero,
Well, we should think of getting around that switching problem with the cooker, do you think that theres a sensor or some kind?
I think there's a way to redo the cooker, disconnect the original drive circuit from the IGBT gate, then use a frequency generator isntead, the input will be as is from grid...
Theres some post at OU.com that the watt meter is not telling the correct power measurement on the gegene device, due to wrong power factoring, what do you think bou't this?
Regards
crazycut
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on January 14, 2013, 05:34:17 PM
Hi Romero,
Well, we should think of getting around that switching problem with the cooker, do you think that theres a sensor or some kind?
I think there's a way to redo the cooker, disconnect the original drive circuit from the IGBT gate, then use a frequency generator isntead, the input will be as is from grid...
Theres some post at OU.com that the watt meter is not telling the correct power measurement on the gegene device, due to wrong power factoring, what do you think bou't this?
Regards
crazycut
Hey crazycut, that is exactly what I did already. I bought another Induction cooker as my wife got in love with the first one and I did exactly what you described. It works as with the original driver and I can control it better. I have even taken apart the coil to measure the length and do different calculations, total coil length 8.3 meters.
I can tell you for sure that there is no way to get OU from this setup but you can get some of the power to feed itself and make it work more efficient, using the grid tie inverter.
Regarding what people are saying on the other forums... they would be right if  I would connect the output back to the input directly but I am using the inverter and that makes the readings close to reality.
As I said in my last video, it can be done to generate more power but not like this. I am waiting to get few components that I need and I will test my idea soon.

Below pictures with the board modified...
Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on January 15, 2013, 11:23:12 AM
Ok thanks for the update, i'll wait for your next step, pls. Post updates with your ideas..
Regards
Cc
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on February 05, 2013, 05:55:11 PM
Recently I built an inverter based on the IC IR2153. So far this is the best inverter I ever had, schematic below. This is very simple and it can be adapted for many applications.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on February 05, 2013, 10:28:58 PM
This is how the circuit looks in action. It can also be used with one battery if we connect both positives together and the same with negative.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on February 06, 2013, 12:35:28 PM
Looks good, thats where those toroids are used.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on February 06, 2013, 02:47:11 PM
Looks good, thats where those toroids are used.
I've used those toroids with many experiments, they are quite good, much better than a normal transformer.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on February 09, 2013, 12:36:42 AM
I believe toroid transformers have greater efficiencies than E type ones, the only problem i see is that the primary winding is sandwiched inside by the secondary thus preventing the primary from cooling, that's why in my experience it has shorter life than E type transformers.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Dave45 on February 09, 2013, 04:12:39 PM
http://newenergyandfuel.com/http:/newenergyandfuel/com/2012/10/18/a-better-inverter-to-change-dc-current-to-ac/
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on February 21, 2013, 10:03:06 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vcukuSAdqc[/youtube]

A simple experiment where it looks that the output is higher than the input. Running at 50Hz we cannot blame the equipment for showing wrong values. In normal conditions we should have the same values on both meters.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on February 24, 2013, 12:20:54 AM
I have uploaded few of my old experiments
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibA5CXFLDF4[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn2zSsFwCMc[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HExoYyacuMQ[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6y6sI4H1NA[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcrsTsyRhTM[/youtube]

Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on February 24, 2013, 01:15:53 AM
Here I made a collection of my experiments photos, diagrams, scope shots...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGvr0Mf3ijs[/youtube]
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Emil on February 24, 2013, 05:09:39 PM
Congratulations for the excellent work , you are a great builder.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: aaron5120 on February 25, 2013, 04:01:50 AM
Here I made a collection of my experiments photos, diagrams, scope shots...
Hi RomeroUK,
Thanks for posting your experiment datas in the forum. I saw some interesting waveforms, particularly the one I hereby am attaching.
Can you please explain how did you get this kind of oscillation and can you indicate which type of circuit can produce this kind of oscillations?
Thanks and please keep up with your great works!
aaron5120
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on February 25, 2013, 08:25:09 AM
Here I made a collection of my experiments photos, diagrams, scope shots...
Hi RomeroUK,
Thanks for posting your experiment datas in the forum. I saw some interesting waveforms, particularly the one I hereby am attaching.
Can you please explain how did you get this kind of oscillation and can you indicate which type of circuit can produce this kind of oscillations?
Thanks and please keep up with your great works!
aaron5120
Hi,
I  am not very sure what circuit I used to get that particular wave form, this is a collection of pictures over a long period of time. I had similar waveforms in many experiments, most of them are experiments with high voltage. This one might have come from this experiment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpShM3yjoSI

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Wings on February 28, 2013, 10:08:07 AM
I have uploaded few of my old experiments

http://jnaudin.free.fr/dlenz/indexen.htm
http://jnaudin.free.fr/dlenz/DLE09en.htm
http://jnaudin.free.fr/dlenz/DLErep2en.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVFXSZzUNmE&list=PLkH1zLdXy1SwReqk9qpqXRzxDDOIPwDFH&index=2
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Wings on February 28, 2013, 01:30:17 PM
Here I made a collection of my experiments photos, diagrams, scope shots...
Hi RomeroUK,
Thanks for posting your experiment datas in the forum. I saw some interesting waveforms, particularly the one I hereby am attaching.
Can you please explain how did you get this kind of oscillation and can you indicate which type of circuit can produce this kind of oscillations?
Thanks and please keep up with your great works!
aaron5120
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7QiI8p1gi4
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: aaron5120 on March 01, 2013, 07:14:11 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7QiI8p1gi4
Hi Wings, thanks for posting the YT link.
That seems to be a normal decaying oscillation waveform, whereas what Romero got in many occasions were trumpet waveforms with increasing amplitude, they use to be abruptly cutoff and the cycle repeats again.  If you watch carefully the waveforms in the link you provided, you will realize that they are exactly the opposite of what I posted as an attachment.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Wings on March 01, 2013, 08:20:31 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7QiI8p1gi4
Hi Wings, thanks for posting the YT link.
That seems to be a normal decaying oscillation waveform, whereas what Romero got in many occasions were trumpet waveforms with increasing amplitude, they use to be abruptly cutoff and the cycle repeats again.  If you watch carefully the waveforms in the link you provided, you will realize that they are exactly the opposite of what I posted as an attachment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-ba0aJnrYo
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on March 13, 2013, 01:06:01 PM
One of the secrets to take power from resonance.
This can be used to get power from resonance in a solid state circuit or from a driver coil used in a magnet/motor...

Hitman, this can help you with your existing experiment. 

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Hitman on March 13, 2013, 03:36:02 PM
One of the secrets to take power from resonance.
This can be used to get power from resonance in a solid state circuit or from a driver coil used in a magnet/motor...

Hitman, this can help you with your existing experiment. 

Romero

Thank you,

Since my Bedini fan conversion finally died this morning and proved not to be a self runner I'll have some time to construct a coil as you have mentioned above.

2*pi*F= 1/sqrt(L*C)

Cheers Hitman
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Hitman on March 13, 2013, 11:16:16 PM
One of the secrets to take power from resonance.
This can be used to get power from resonance in a solid state circuit or from a driver coil used in a magnet/motor...

Hitman, this can help you with your existing experiment. 

Romero

Just finished some tests with some interesting results,
@romero have you ever try this with litz wire.
input = 6v @ 2.25ma - output = 101.3v - 2.85ma shorted
this is using that 4000 turn coil we made awhile back @ 1.58khz and 1uf cap.
Guess I have wind some more coils lol

Cheers Hitman
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on March 14, 2013, 07:11:00 AM
One of the secrets to take power from resonance.
This can be used to get power from resonance in a solid state circuit or from a driver coil used in a magnet/motor...

Hitman, this can help you with your existing experiment. 

Romero

Just finished some tests with some interesting results,
@romero have you ever try this with litz wire.
input = 6v @ 2.25ma - output = 101.3v - 2.85ma shorted
this is using that 4000 turn coil we made awhile back @ 1.58khz and 1uf cap.
Guess I have wind some more coils lol

Cheers Hitman
most of my experiments are done with litz of multifilar wire.
with my last suggested schematic should speed up too while a load is applied, just make sure you have the right capacitor. Another variable capacitor connected on l2 coil will  help in tuning properly.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 15, 2013, 12:45:13 AM
New toy - Pendulum
Not completed but soon...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLSodHXdgMc&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: aaron5120 on April 15, 2013, 04:31:08 AM
Nice work! Romero. The Lenz law seems to work in favor of your pendulum this time.
The magnets in the pendulum arm pass by the square coil and generates 2 spikes and 2 BEMF every complete cycle.
You recycle those spikes to the input of the driving electromagnet.
I wonder if adding another load may further reduce the input power?!
This is a very good toy for us all !

aaron5120
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Dave45 on April 15, 2013, 01:45:36 PM
cool  8)  looking forward to your results
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 19, 2013, 04:51:53 PM
Other Pendulum Power device http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egqxas7cYjk
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 24, 2013, 11:23:22 AM
This is another of my projects getting close to be finalized. I call this one RG10.
I am still waiting for some parts to complete the pendulum project.
Initial testing is running at about 380 rpm with a lot of torque.
I don't need lots of rpm, anything from 200-500 rpm is what I am aiming for.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 26, 2013, 12:42:10 AM
RG10 coils ready and fitted
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: kEhYo77 on April 27, 2013, 12:06:44 AM
Hi Romero. I like where You going with this :) So it's an efficient attraction prime mover with a generator. Any sine peak shorting in those coils?
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 27, 2013, 11:39:52 AM
Hi Romero. I like where You going with this :) So it's an efficient attraction prime mover with a generator. Any sine peak shorting in those coils?
Hi,
this is a combination of ideas, I tested it in attraction now I am going to add small magnets on each metal bar to see if that will increase torque. At one end will have a Muller type coil/magnets arrangement.
No standard shorting necessary, I am using a similar method but shorting is done by the load itself, connecting and disconnecting the load at sine peak multiple times.

This is another part of the puzzle...

A quick simple schematic you can see below.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 27, 2013, 12:10:14 PM
More advanced shorting with the load
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: kEhYo77 on April 28, 2013, 10:23:15 AM
Interesting solutions Romero! I 'll have to try them out.
I hope to see a video of your setup soon.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on May 09, 2013, 12:40:42 PM
Suggestion for those playing with pulse motors.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on May 09, 2013, 03:34:55 PM
Romero,

Thank you for the suggestion, do this only work on nsns configuration?

Regards
Cc
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on May 09, 2013, 06:51:25 PM
Romero,

Thank you for the suggestion, do this only work on nsns configuration?

Regards
Cc
Yes, NSNS only.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: kEhYo77 on May 09, 2013, 07:20:40 PM
Romero, about the magnet alignment..
I am currently building a replacement magneto/alternator for my motorized bicycle project.
I came up with this arrangement, where NSNS poles are interlaced with 90 deg. magnets to make the poles stronger/sharper/more protruding outwards... With tiny N50 3x2x15mm magnets and the available area of 7x7cm, I hope to create an electric starter motor/dynamo/electric boost motor for my little 66cc gas engine :D
I don't care about the cogging here, I want maximum power/torque per volume, so there's only one phase ;)
The coils on the stator will be wound cc/ccw all parallel...
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on May 09, 2013, 09:39:43 PM
@kEhYo77
if you will have all coils in parallel there will be a lot of amps but very little voltage.
High amperage will be hard to play with, better use thicker wire and add all coils in series, one phase.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: kEhYo77 on May 09, 2013, 10:24:23 PM
I've been thinking about it for a while. The crank shaft can reach 10000 RPM which gives 4kHz per coil/pole.
With frequency that high I have to go with a thin wire as there is little space for the windings.
I'll see what's better, maybe a combination of both series/parallel. Probably I'll use my copper tape for this, then series connection
will be optimal :) Thanks!
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on July 09, 2013, 09:57:45 PM
RG11
Pictures with another toy I built these days. First you see my first attempt that I was not very happy with the results then I changed it and now it works as expected.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on July 09, 2013, 09:59:32 PM
RG11 Second attempt, successful.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdEQDrW56-g&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on July 10, 2013, 01:24:19 PM
Nice...input output pls.  ;D
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on July 10, 2013, 01:42:04 PM
Nice...input output pls.  ;D
I am testing multiple methods to drive it and at the moment I have not tested all but so far it looks that a self trigger circuit works much better comparing to the hall sensor based circuits.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: kEhYo77 on July 10, 2013, 03:20:47 PM
Nice setup Romero. I see that coils have a proper copper to ferrite volume ratio ;) are there any generator coils in this?
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Hitman on July 10, 2013, 03:51:54 PM
@ romero
which self trigger circuit are you using ?

Thanks, Hitman
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on July 10, 2013, 04:52:04 PM
Nice setup Romero. I see that coils have a proper copper to ferrite volume ratio ;) are there any generator coils in this?
these coils were custom made for me for another project, about one year ago. As usual I always order more... just in case and this was the case. In this particular project first half of the positive sine is producing energy acting as generator, next 20-25% time of the sine is running as motor the difference is acting as a generator again plus the collapsing field. The steps are repeated with the negative sine and so on...
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on July 10, 2013, 04:59:05 PM
@ romero
which self trigger circuit are you using ?

Thanks, Hitman
check here: http://www.underservice.org/index.php?topic=3.150
you will see my first circuit then JoeFR posted another one based on mosfet.
Now I have built a new one based on mosfet with just few modifications. I will posted later.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on July 14, 2013, 08:12:58 PM
Driver for the coils updated
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 22, 2013, 12:18:41 AM
Here are some few photos with my version of a motor drive generator. I have started it few years back and never finish it as I was not happy with the results. In the mean time I decided to change few things and make it better.
AC motor was the biggest problem. I just realized today after I've changed it with DC Motor. The Power used to drive DC motor is about a quarter comparing with the AC motor plus a big reduction in noise. I also have a 2500watt permanent magnet alternator, that is next to be tried and compare results.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 22, 2013, 12:59:54 PM
This is a permanent magnet alternator, 2500Watt... next to try it in the system.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: dllabarre on October 24, 2013, 12:06:03 AM
I just realized today after I've changed it with DC Motor. The Power used to drive DC motor is about a quarter comparing with the AC motor plus a big reduction in noise. I also have a 2500watt permanent magnet alternator, that is next to be tried and compare results.

What horsepower is the DC motor?
What RPM is it rated for?

Thanks
DonL

PS - did you ever hear back from that guy that had a Kapanadze device and he let a friend take it apart to determine how it works?
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: aaron5120 on October 24, 2013, 03:39:17 PM
Hi Romero,
Thanks for posting your motor-generator setup! Nice looking.
I realize that your design is a bit different from the guy of Rumania, Valy Valintin.
There is something misterious about the flywheel in that it can grab extra power when operating with the motor-alternator setup.
Maybe it has to do with resonance and centripetal force.

aaron5120
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 24, 2013, 11:08:42 PM
I just realized today after I've changed it with DC Motor. The Power used to drive DC motor is about a quarter comparing with the AC motor plus a big reduction in noise. I also have a 2500watt permanent magnet alternator, that is next to be tried and compare results.

What horsepower is the DC motor?
What RPM is it rated for?

Thanks
DonL

PS - did you ever hear back from that guy that had a Kapanadze device and he let a friend take it apart to determine how it works?
I have changed the DC Motor with another one. This one is 1.5HP 4500rpm.
No more news from that person.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 24, 2013, 11:16:28 PM
Today I changed almost everything, almost 10 hours spent with the new configuration.
Brand new flywheel 10Kg, different DC motor and connected the permanent magnet alternator.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Hitman on November 03, 2013, 09:30:52 PM
@ romero
which self trigger circuit are you using ?

Thanks, Hitman
check here: http://www.underservice.org/index.php?topic=3.150
you will see my first circuit then JoeFR posted another one based on mosfet.
Now I have built a new one based on mosfet with just few modifications. I will posted later.
I finally got around to testing your self trigger circuit and it works very well and excels at higher rpm. Wonder why Bedini never thought of it.
BTW did you ever finish the circuit based on a mosfet, I'd love to take a look at it.

Cheers Hitman
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 03, 2013, 09:50:52 PM
@ romero
which self trigger circuit are you using ?

Thanks, Hitman
check here: http://www.underservice.org/index.php?topic=3.150
you will see my first circuit then JoeFR posted another one based on mosfet.
Now I have built a new one based on mosfet with just few modifications. I will posted later.
I finally got around to testing your self trigger circuit and it works very well and excels at higher rpm. Wonder why Bedini never thought of it.
BTW did you ever finish the circuit based on a mosfet, I'd love to take a look at it.

Cheers Hitman
check here http://www.underservice.org/index.php?topic=3.msg578;topicseen#msg578
the circuit was modified and posted by joefr.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 03, 2013, 10:04:13 PM
All combinations I've tried with the new generator did not work as I expected. I am close to unity but not more.
To make it easy I have built another mini version to play with and see if I can get more out than in.
This actually works with a COP greater than 1 from the first test (no mistakes in measuring power).
System is using 12volts/240ma and I get 11.60volts/390ma
There is a lot to improve now.
Pictures below with initial test
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: mariuscivic on November 04, 2013, 09:20:15 PM
Hi Romero.
Nice to see you back in action!
This toy can be a self runner?
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 05, 2013, 12:39:41 AM
Hi Romero.
Nice to see you back in action!
This toy can be a self runner?
this small one has the potential. I am waiting for a turnigy motor that I will modify myself and make it act as a generator. it is something I've done before and I was happy with the results.
While I am playing with this one I do some changing on the big one too
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 06, 2013, 01:33:57 AM
Here is a short movie with the generator powered by a dc motor
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF8La5RaNWA[/youtube]
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Hitman on November 08, 2013, 07:03:18 PM
Here is a short movie with the generator powered by a dc motor
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF8La5RaNWA[/youtube]

Pushing this just a little further might be done by using UFO's asymmetric motor designs, if I'm not mistaken one of his designs was based on the same dc motor you are using.

Quick question for anyone, did any of you's ever try to use the self trigger circuit in a self shorting circuit, instead of sending power to the coil just short the coil and recover bemf ?

Cheers Hitman
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 09, 2013, 12:49:42 PM
@Hitman

DC motor you see driving the alternator is a modified one with 4 brushes inside but all on one side of the motor.
That motor was using about 30-40% more power before I changed it, ufopolitics idea is working.
I am playing now with a 3 phase motor used in rotovertor mode, adjusting capacitor value to match the power needed by the alternator. Its not bad so far but its too fast for the permanent magnet alternator. I am going to change the alternator with a AC generator where I can power the generator rotor independently.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: aaron5120 on November 10, 2013, 01:43:35 PM
Interesting config Romero, I saw the UT video.
The motor seems to be a RC DC motor that is a current gusher, am I right? I recall having seen in somewhere of youtube a flywheel system that has the drive shaft decoupled from the output shaft.
This system seems to be quite promising to be a unity or slightly overunity motor-generator setup.
A rotating mass's inertia turns out to be lesser than when it is in a stationary state. Then we can extract energy from the flywheel in an intermittent form.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 23, 2013, 07:45:57 PM
Today I finished my wind turbine... I need wind now to test it
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: mariuscivic on November 24, 2013, 06:43:41 AM
That looks nice...wish I would have a yard to play...

My low lenz gen is still in progress
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 26, 2013, 04:18:19 PM
Free led strips recovered from dead LED laptop screens.
People can go to any computer repairs shop and ask for dead ones..
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 26, 2013, 04:20:20 PM
I've got few capacitors to investigate further reactive power.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 26, 2013, 04:23:56 PM
Here is how I modified an ceiling fan motor into a generator.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on November 28, 2013, 04:04:21 PM
Hi Romero,
I also have a similar ceiling fan like yours, just don't have the time yet to play with, too busy  :(
Would you care to share some details, wire size, voltage output, rpm, is it lenz free? Thanks!

Regards
Cc
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 28, 2013, 07:22:27 PM
Hi Romero,
I also have a similar ceiling fan like yours, just don't have the time yet to play with, too busy  :(
Would you care to share some details, wire size, voltage output, rpm, is it lenz free? Thanks!

Regards
Cc
Hi,
wire for the centre coil is 0.75mm 28 turns each individual coil  and for the outer coil is 1mm 19 turns each coil.
It is not lenz free but it is very powerfull at low rpm. I get 12 volts at 42 rpm. The distance between the stator and the magnets is 2mm and the magnets dimensions are 25/10/2 mm.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on November 28, 2013, 11:10:24 PM
Ok thanks for the details, have you tried adding more magnets where the arms of the stator aligns with two magnets N & S like ed leedskalnin's, what do you think would be the result?

Regards
Cc
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 29, 2013, 02:01:26 PM
Ok thanks for the details, have you tried adding more magnets where the arms of the stator aligns with two magnets N & S like ed leedskalnin's, what do you think would be the result?

Regards
Cc
I have not tried all possibilities yet, I will have a look and see if that will do any benefit.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Hitman on December 03, 2013, 12:38:34 PM
Nice romero, I built one of these a few years ago for low wind conditions but found it to have lots of cogging.
I recently made a new generator using a 48volt E-bike wheel with much better results.
I'll post some pics when I get some time.

Cheers Hitman
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on December 03, 2013, 02:47:49 PM
Nice romero, I built one of these a few years ago for low wind conditions but found it to have lots of cogging.
I recently made a new generator using a 48volt E-bike wheel with much better results.
I'll post some pics when I get some time.

Cheers Hitman
I also have a 36 volt/500watt E-bike motor I was thinking to try it as wind generator...
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Hitman on December 05, 2013, 11:55:58 AM
Heres a pic of the 48 volt E-bike motor, it's 3 phase Star configuration, perfect for a generator. Notice the extremely small air gap :)

Cheers Hitman
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on December 05, 2013, 09:50:59 PM
@Hitman
my E-bike motor is geared internally, 3 phase Star configuration too, I never opened it.
What make is yours?
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Hitman on December 05, 2013, 11:12:17 PM
The wheel came off of a "ecocycle" and I can't access it at the moment cause it's 30 feet in the air hehe, but I do need to add blades to the rotor for better performance.
When I do, I'll take down the motor type and model number.

Cheers Hitman
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on December 13, 2013, 07:17:19 PM
Washing machine rotor and stator.
This is very powerful, can get 500watt out at about 100rpm
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: a.king21 on December 14, 2013, 02:09:25 PM
Romero: re motor generator.
Try slackening your dive belts as much as possible.
That's the trick.
Good luck :)
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on December 14, 2013, 09:25:48 PM
Romero: re motor generator.
Try slackening your dive belts as much as possible.
That's the trick.
Good luck :)
Hi,
thank's for your suggestion.
At this moment I am using a direct shaft connection between motor and generator.
I have had very good results using a normal three phase motor as the generator driven by a DC motor.
The advantage using a DC motor to drive it is that I can adjust the rpm to the best point to keep the motor generator in resonance.
Looking at the measurements I should easily say that this is already running in OU mode but for me that is not convincing until it can power itself and that might be possible soon but I am waiting to receive three custom built transformers that will be connected to the generator output to convert into DC.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: aaron5120 on December 15, 2013, 02:15:51 PM
Good for you, Romero, this is very good news. I am very happy because of your success.
Hope you can accomplish what most of us have been dreaming : an unconventional system using off-the-shelf commodities.

aaron5120
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: landownunder on December 17, 2013, 12:48:43 PM
Hey romero any christmas presents for the people out here. merry christmas to you and everyone else who reads here all my best wishes for you and yours ron
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on December 17, 2013, 06:12:23 PM
Hey romero any christmas presents for the people out here. merry christmas to you and everyone else who reads here all my best wishes for you and yours ron
Hi landownunder,
I don't know if I will have any Christmas presents for people out there but I will always try and if I can I will.

Merry Christmas!

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: e2matrix on December 30, 2013, 11:10:13 PM
Romero: re motor generator.
Try slackening your dive belts as much as possible.
That's the trick.
Good luck :)
Hi,
thank's for your suggestion.
At this moment I am using a direct shaft connection between motor and generator.
I have had very good results using a normal three phase motor as the generator driven by a DC motor.
The advantage using a DC motor to drive it is that I can adjust the rpm to the best point to keep the motor generator in resonance.
Looking at the measurements I should easily say that this is already running in OU mode but for me that is not convincing until it can power itself and that might be possible soon but I am waiting to receive three custom built transformers that will be connected to the generator output to convert into DC.

Regards,
Romero

Hi Romero,   thanks again for access.   I picked up a 1.5HP 3 Phase Italian motor recently. I was using it in some experiments with interesting results (based on gotoluc's recent work).   Initially I wanted to use it as a generator too but it seemed from what I was seeing they aren't the best setup to run that way.  How did you have yours hooked up for the output?    I asked around on the EVGray group and this was Konehead's response about best ways to get output of a 3 Phase motor for single phase use:
"Not sure but have three ideas -  first, a 3ph transformer in reverse? (??)

Other idea is connect up to single phase into rotovertor mode, with the run cap across L2 and L3 and take power out from the 3ph motor through that run cap phase, which would be single phase but not sure how well you can get the motor to generate like that as have never tried it like that as altternator-only,....

it being Asnychronous if lucky might mean it also has permanent magnets to it ?? If so it would be nice generator to charge battery bank - so third idea is put invertor across battery bank for your power, and charge battery bank with that motor after its rectifed to DC the output of it...

anyways there are some stabs at it...I bet most practical will be a transformer to convert 3ph to single phase....

ciaoKonehead "

Sounds though like you may already be on track to one of those ideas if you are getting 3 custom transformers.   

BTW what brand was that picture of the washing machine motor you mentioned it was getting around 500 watts at 100 RPM?   I think I know the brand but forget at the moment (a brand common in Australia I beleieve).   

Happy New Years every one!
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on December 30, 2013, 11:31:26 PM
Hi,

I am still waiting for my transformers. I did a quick test with  different transformers connected in reverse and it looks that I could get more out than the system use to drive the alternator side.
I managed to have my system running at 11watt input power, no load.

LG direct drive washing machine rotor and stator here: http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.Xlg+washing+machine+rotor&_nkw=lg+washing+machine+rotor&_sacat=0&_from=R40

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=lg+washing+machine+rotor&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.Xlg+washing+machine+stator&_nkw=lg+washing+machine+stator&_sacat=0

This is cheaper and easier to get compared to the one you were thinking about.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: e2matrix on December 31, 2013, 10:31:53 PM
Sounds like good news if I understood you right - more out than used to drive it?

Thanks,  yes they even have those washer motors for reasonable over here in U.S. on ebay.   
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: sinergicus on January 05, 2014, 02:34:41 PM
Romero: re motor generator.
Try slackening your dive belts as much as possible.
That's the trick.
Good luck :)
Hi,
thank's for your suggestion.
At this moment I am using a direct shaft connection between motor and generator.
I have had very good results using a normal three phase motor as the generator driven by a DC motor.
[The advantage using a DC motor to drive it is that I can adjust the rpm to the best point to keep the motor generator in resonance.
Looking at the measurements I should easily say that this is already running in OU mode but for me that is not convincing until it can power itself and that might be possible soon but I am waiting to receive three custom built transformers that will be connected to the generator output to convert into DC.

Regards,
Romero

Can you explain please what means resonance  of the motor generator?What is happening when the motor generator is in resonance and how this happens in  an mechanical sistem like yours?
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on January 05, 2014, 09:09:57 PM
Romero: re motor generator.
Try slackening your dive belts as much as possible.
That's the trick.
Good luck :)
Hi,
thank's for your suggestion.
At this moment I am using a direct shaft connection between motor and generator.
I have had very good results using a normal three phase motor as the generator driven by a DC motor.
[The advantage using a DC motor to drive it is that I can adjust the rpm to the best point to keep the motor generator in resonance.
Looking at the measurements I should easily say that this is already running in OU mode but for me that is not convincing until it can power itself and that might be possible soon but I am waiting to receive three custom built transformers that will be connected to the generator output to convert into DC.

Regards,
Romero

Can you explain please what means resonance  of the motor generator?What is happening when the motor generator is in resonance and how this happens in  an mechanical sistem like yours?
Hi,
the resonance takes place in the 3 transformers connected at the output of the motor generator.
When resonance occurs the voltage is amplified then with the help of capacitors we can have voltage and amperage magnified.

Motor or generator can also get into resonance but that happens at very high speeds and most of the time a mechanical resonance will destroy the device very quick.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: e2matrix on January 08, 2014, 08:29:02 PM
I had a thought after seeing your diagram (from Hector) and another diagram I saw recently.   I am thinking it might decrease losses in the transformers while making it possible to loop the setup.   I'm not sure if the capacitors would be of help in this setup but I left them in my modification.   While the voltage out to the battery would be a lot higher than 12 volts the battery (if big enough) would buffer the output I think back to the motor speed controller to keep it around 12-14 volts or so and would keep the battery charged with higher voltage spikes (hopefully).   What do you think?   
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on January 09, 2014, 07:00:30 PM
I had a thought after seeing your diagram (from Hector) and another diagram I saw recently.   I am thinking it might decrease losses in the transformers while making it possible to loop the setup.   I'm not sure if the capacitors would be of help in this setup but I left them in my modification.   While the voltage out to the battery would be a lot higher than 12 volts the battery (if big enough) would buffer the output I think back to the motor speed controller to keep it around 12-14 volts or so and would keep the battery charged with higher voltage spikes (hopefully).   What do you think?
I already tried using the schematic you suggested using an MPPT Controller and that brought best results unfortunately I managed to burn the controller when the input voltage went over 100volts, the limit of my controller.
I will have to order another one with higher voltage input.
Temporarily I am using a modified 700Watt computer PSU, with the power coming from the motor/generator connected direct to the input capacitors.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on January 30, 2014, 04:33:42 PM
All attempts to get extra power using Rotoverter have resulted in failure unfortunately. I have few more ideas but to put them into practice I will have to wait for the spring, it is too cold now...
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on January 30, 2014, 04:48:52 PM
In my attached pictures you can find information that can help you build your own generator with minimal expense.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on January 30, 2014, 05:30:59 PM
what if...
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: aaron5120 on January 31, 2014, 03:14:24 AM
Thanks RomeroUK,
The circuit looks amazing, I will try to collect all the components needed for a replication. The waveforms are self explaining, excellent experiments and congratulations, my friend!

It seems that the connection to a true ground and the tuning of L2 and C3 are vital to this setup.

aaron5120
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Vincent on January 31, 2014, 10:47:19 PM
Wow !!! Good job !!! Looks really good. I would like to perform a few tests with your setup. Before playing the coil, I have a question about winding L1, L2, L3.  Do I need to wind first L1, then L2 and L3 over a ferrite ? Just a little advice to save materials; I will really appreciate that. Thank you.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on January 31, 2014, 11:35:23 PM
Wow !!! Good job !!! Looks really good. I would like to perform a few tests with your setup. Before playing the coil, I have a question about winding L1, L2, L3.  Do I need to wind first L1, then L2 and L3 over a ferrite ? Just a little advice to save materials; I will really appreciate that. Thank you.
I have tried different arrangements but best is to start winding all 3 coils at the same time, next to each other and calculate where to stop with one of the windings (that being L3) continuing with L1 and L2.
Example: L1 - L2 = 100 turns ; L3 = 50 turns
If the green path is going to be used then l3 is best calculated to be close to 13 volts, not more or less.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Vincent on February 02, 2014, 12:31:16 AM
Hi Romero. Thank you for the information. It's better to have just an extra info before start to wind like a robot. Now I'm rebuilding my 2 power supplies and then I will start again with a few tests.

Just for the record. My 2 old power supplies, one LCD monitor and 1 arduino pro mini, just blew out playing with a TPU (Otto's replication). The TPU was inside a Faraday Cage builded from an old metal box and at one frequency combination all my stuff just went off. So I'm finishing with the new arduino controller and if a minimal magnetic leak is detected, the system will stop.

Thank you again.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: e2matrix on February 06, 2014, 08:52:17 PM
Romero,  In the circuit above I see in the pic a 16 pin chip (I assume is the TL494) and also an 8 pin chip.  Which pins are used in the schematic above for the TL494 and what is the 8 pin chip as I don't see an 8 pin chip in the schematic.   I think I have everything to try this circuit except the TL494 which I can get.   Is that Litz wire wound on the toroid ?   I've got a lot of that too.
After a closer look at the pictures it appears there are several more components than showing in the schematic : 2 pots, transformer, other caps.   Is there an updated schematic or do the pictures of the circuit show a different build?     

Vincent,  Nice work!   When stuff starts blowing out around TPU builds that's a good sign ;)   Auto shutdown is nice but I'd suggest a manual shutdown switch too.  Good luck with it.  I always wanted to try Otto's build ....   
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Vincent on February 06, 2014, 11:42:16 PM
Hi e2matrix. Noted. I will addition a better manual  - panic button - TPU's are a good source of knowledge, but they are complicated too. I don't like when a system became complicated. Must be simple, stable and secure. I just was curious about that technology and I will keep the research as soon as I can. Wife + kids needs time and love too.

Following the good Romero's idea on his last post, I started to prepare the hardware for this new test. Materials involved :

- A classic ferrite core ERL-35-2005 from an old ATX power supply. Was a little pity to put it out, but I found a better way to do it. Heating it for 5 minutes over my kitchen burner ( no more than 250? F ) and all was good. This core have an AL ( nH / N2 ) = 3000. Fair enough for the purpose. I will  wind very accurately L1/L2/L3 and the LC tank. It this ferrite core doesn't work  I will try another one type. 

- One of my best oscillators. ICL 8038 + TC427 + IRFP460A. If all its good, I will test it also with digital pwm.

Au revoir les amis.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: e2matrix on February 07, 2014, 12:14:12 AM
Hi Vincent,  good to hear from you.   I am not sure if I'm lost here or what but your circuit appears like Romero's (with extra components) - the 8 pin IC chip and pots and so on that I didn't see in the schematic Romero just posted recently along with pictures and O-scope waveforms.   What circuit was your build made from?   (maybe I need to go back a few more pages ?) 
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on February 07, 2014, 05:25:04 PM
Romero,  In the circuit above I see in the pic a 16 pin chip (I assume is the TL494) and also an 8 pin chip.  Which pins are used in the schematic above for the TL494 and what is the 8 pin chip as I don't see an 8 pin chip in the schematic.   I think I have everything to try this circuit except the TL494 which I can get.   Is that Litz wire wound on the toroid ?   I've got a lot of that too.
After a closer look at the pictures it appears there are several more components than showing in the schematic : 2 pots, transformer, other caps.   Is there an updated schematic or do the pictures of the circuit show a different build?     

Vincent,  Nice work!   When stuff starts blowing out around TPU builds that's a good sign ;)   Auto shutdown is nice but I'd suggest a manual shutdown switch too.  Good luck with it.  I always wanted to try Otto's build ....   
TL494 is shown as a block diagram, check here for mre details on that part https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=kheUNEI5TygKMM&tbnid=q--wLZIMu7QzeM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fhackerfriendly.com%2Ftag%2Ftl494%2F&ei=wxP1UsXvMaHO0wWh_4DQDg&bvm=bv.60799247,d.d2k&psig=AFQjCNEAYhr9u3Z1X4toajLixYoZVzLQLQ&ust=1391879485950652
 the 8 pin chip is IR2101, mosfet driver.
The schamatic is not detailed as these components are common and easy to find schematics, I have detailed only the important part.
Primary is wound with litz wire, secondary is normal wire, 0.7mm.

Below is another picture taken today while experimenting other ideeas.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: aaron5120 on February 08, 2014, 02:58:03 AM
Hi Romero,
Thanks for posting the update waveforms of your experiments. Please tell us what exactly was being done in order to obtain the ringings of the Ampli1 picture in channel 1?
Have you modified any connection of the original setup of that circuit, or did you use coil shorting circuitry to short at the wave peak?
Thanks!

aaron5120
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on February 08, 2014, 11:59:12 AM
Hi Romero,
Thanks for posting the update waveforms of your experiments. Please tell us what exactly was being done in order to obtain the ringings of the Ampli1 picture in channel 1?
Have you modified any connection of the original setup of that circuit, or did you use coil shorting circuitry to short at the wave peak?
Thanks!

aaron5120
Hi,

for the last waveform I used a different type of coil, only testing.
There is an idea that I am testing for a while, almost two months now, i'll tell you in few words.
I have one capacitor 47000uf/25v capacitor that I charge to 12 volts then disconnect from the source.
We know that the total energy in the capacitor is 3.384 Joules.
Using different methods I am charging another capacitor calculating the energy acumulated in the second one and comparing with initial energy in the first one.
I have done it hundreds of time, trying different types of coils and capacitors.
Not all capacitors are good for this type of experiment.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on February 08, 2014, 11:48:50 PM
Just another schematic under test.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: aaron5120 on February 09, 2014, 10:08:50 AM
Hi Romero,
Many thanks for replying, your suggestions are well received, and the joule calculating method is simple and accurate for comparing input and output energy of the circuit under trial. I guess the type of capacitors suitable for these tests should be low ESR ones.
The new schematic you just posted is interesting, but I should concentrate in the previous one which you post days ago, before I go on experimenting with a new circuit.
The picture below, at a glance, the ringing in channel 1 shows apparently more energy by channel 2's impulse, integrating the area under the curve.
That coil and setting should be studied more thoroughly by myself, because I think this is what we want: more output energy than energy sending into the circuit.
Thanks my friend for your suggestions, and let me get back to the lab.......Keep up your good work, Gentleman.

aaron5120
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Vincent on February 10, 2014, 10:27:14 PM
In my attached pictures you can find information that can help you build your own generator with minimal expense.

Last question about this Coil. I checked  my ferrite and winded a few turns to test inductance and I choose this setup :

L1 / L2 = 32 turns
L3 = 16 turns

LC tank calculations are ok, but I doubt about turns. Do I need more ?  Winding is my weakness...
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on February 10, 2014, 10:32:33 PM
In my attached pictures you can find information that can help you build your own generator with minimal expense.

Last question about this Coil. I checked  my ferrite and winded a few turns to test inductance and I choose this setup :

L1 / L2 = 32 turns
L3 = 16 turns

LC tank calculations are ok, but I doubt about turns. Do I need more ?  Winding is my weakness...
it all depends of diameter of your core, but for a prof of concept that will do. I will instruct you more privately when you get there...

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Vincent on February 11, 2014, 09:39:40 PM
In my attached pictures you can find information that can help you build your own generator with minimal expense.

Last question about this Coil. I checked  my ferrite and winded a few turns to test inductance and I choose this setup :

L1 / L2 = 32 turns
L3 = 16 turns

LC tank calculations are ok, but I doubt about turns. Do I need more ?  Winding is my weakness...
it all depends of diameter of your core, but for a prof of concept that will do. I will instruct you more privately when you get there...

Romero

Thank you.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on February 24, 2014, 02:53:50 PM
My CNC Router Kit arrived, now it's time to put it together.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on February 25, 2014, 06:14:46 PM
CNC Router assembly progressing... after 7 hours.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Vincent on February 25, 2014, 10:31:50 PM
Wow !! Looks awesome.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on February 25, 2014, 10:58:14 PM
CNC project almost finished and first test.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on February 26, 2014, 10:07:08 AM
CNC project new controller.
The controller that comes with the KIT its very basic and not compatible with Mach3 or other well known software.
More info about the KIT here: http://www.shapeoko.com/
I bought if from ebay  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ShapeOko-2-Desktop-CNC-Mill-Kit-Milling-machine-/141196437133?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item20dff6a68d

New Controller: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-Axis-CNC-Stepper-Motor-Driver-TB6560-Box-Set-LCD-Display-Handle-Controller-/131112043688?pt=UK_BOI_Industrial_Automation_Control_ET&hash=item1e86e304a8
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Vincent on March 02, 2014, 12:16:26 AM
In my attached pictures you can find information that can help you build your own generator with minimal expense.

Hi Romero,

I was running a few tests with no positive result :

L1 / L2 = 541.5 uh // 3.8 mts // 22AWG // 100 turns
L3 = 146 uh // 1.90 mts // 22  // 50 turns
Cx = 0.33 uf 250v
Ferrite Core (AM radio).
F(x) = 11.8 Khz
F(r) = 8Khz // 50% DC

At 8Khz is resonating, but no going to Self Running mode.  Any advice ?

Thank you.

V


Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Vincent on March 02, 2014, 12:18:11 AM
In my attached pictures you can find information that can help you build your own generator with minimal expense.

Hi Romero,

I was running a few tests with no positive result :

L1 / L2 = 541.5 uh // 3.8 mts // 22AWG // 100 turns
L3 = 146 uh // 1.90 mts // 22  // 50 turns
Cx = 0.33 uf 250v
Ferrite Core (AM radio).
F(x) = 11.8 Khz
F(r) = 8Khz // 50% DC

At 8Khz is resonating, but no going to Self Running mode.  Any advice ?

Thank you.

V

Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on March 02, 2014, 08:42:17 PM
Hi Vincent,

for best results coils should be on top of each other then must concentrate on C3 value.
Start without the loop back diode and connect a 5watt bulb or equivalent load then change C3 value until you will have two resonant frequencies.
I hope you understand what I mean, L1 and L2 will resonate at the same time, think of octaves in sound you can be plus or minus of the main octave which is L1

I am learning more about the CNC world and cutting different shapes for my kids, they are very impressed with it.

I am almost ready to cut the parts for my next project.
I am expecting to be my most efficient motor/generator, you might agree after you will see what I mean. There will be multiple cores not only two as shown in my drawing.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on March 04, 2014, 11:14:28 AM
Hi Vincent,

for best results coils should be on top of each other then must concentrate on C3 value.
Start without the loop back diode and connect a 5watt bulb or equivalent load then change C3 value until you will have two resonant frequencies.
I hope you understand what I mean, L1 and L2 will resonate at the same time, think of octaves in sound you can be plus or minus of the main octave which is L1

I am learning more about the CNC world and cutting different shapes for my kids, they are very impressed with it.

I am almost ready to cut the parts for my next project.
I am expecting to be my most efficient motor/generator, you might agree after you will see what I mean. There will be multiple cores not only two as shown in my drawing.

Regards,
Romero

Hi Romero,
This should have been my project a year ago, but i don't have the parts needed in building, that's why i'm exited for your build, since you can easily acquire the parts, good luck!

Regards
Cc
 
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on March 04, 2014, 11:27:29 AM
Well actually i've tried this before, with small neo magnets scavenged from damaged microphone coil, my c-core coil is wound on each arm of the c core and is placed on the side of the rotor, power is only small because the magnets are not that powerful, but the effect of speed under load or under short was there.  :o interesting!
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Vincent on March 06, 2014, 10:42:43 PM
Hi Vincent,

for best results coils should be on top of each other then must concentrate on C3 value.
Start without the loop back diode and connect a 5watt bulb or equivalent load then change C3 value until you will have two resonant frequencies.
I hope you understand what I mean, L1 and L2 will resonate at the same time, think of octaves in sound you can be plus or minus of the main octave which is L1

I am learning more about the CNC world and cutting different shapes for my kids, they are very impressed with it.

I am almost ready to cut the parts for my next project.
I am expecting to be my most efficient motor/generator, you might agree after you will see what I mean. There will be multiple cores not only two as shown in my drawing.

Regards,
Romero


Hi Romero,

Sorry that I answering with a big delay, I'm being busy at work..will pass soon. 100% Understood about the coils...I did a mistake, I will run a new test again ASAP.

For sure your kids are more than happy receiving awesome toys and models made in from home..... Did you tray to do PCB's with your CNC ? Better than a laser printer + acid.

I checked your setup for the motor and I think It can be a big winner. I don't have the doc with me, but remember me the Thane Heins open source patent :

http://www.slideshare.net/ThaneCHeins/pdi-regenerative-acceleration-generator-regenx-2013-patent-disclosure

I almost finished the arduino controller for mags motor...runs smooth. That is the big difference with the JNL version. If you check the output of his version you will find the overhead of the LCD print on the mains coils and at long therm will destroy the bearings or the rotor.

Also will be a good idea to switch to ratiometric linear hall sensors (A1301 and A1302 from allegro).  More precision and better handle resources on your controller (CPU) and you don't need to use interrupts to call the mains coils.

Au revoir les amis !

Vincent


Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on March 07, 2014, 07:27:00 AM
Thank you Vincent.
I have been testing almost every software available for CNC drawing, toolpath...
Easiest so far I find Autocad for drawing and CamBam to generate tool paths and Gcode.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: energia9 on March 08, 2014, 10:33:31 AM
Hey, its been a while since i posted on your forum Romero, i'd like to ask wheter any of you have experimented with Akulas 30 watt circuit. i have seen the news on overunity forum, im sorry if this is offtopic, what are your views on that circuit?
there is a pwm in the circuit driving a coil.
Is akula way ahead of us?
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on March 08, 2014, 11:50:56 AM
Hey, its been a while since i posted on your forum Romero, i'd like to ask wheter any of you have experimented with Akulas 30 watt circuit. i have seen the news on overunity forum, im sorry if this is offtopic, what are your views on that circuit?
there is a pwm in the circuit driving a coil.
Is akula way ahead of us?
Hi,
one of my recent experiments was very similar with Akula's schematic and I managed to make it self run but only 4 led's as load.
I know is better potential there but now I am building a new generator and have no time for something else.
I will soon post pictures with my new build.
Below first picture original from Akula, second picture shows what I will do to make it work.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: energia9 on March 08, 2014, 01:32:09 PM

I appreciate your answer.
i have three questions, i would like to replicate too.
that two coils on a magnetic material are just separate inductors .. ?
that two diodes in a box are?
the npn and pnp transistors are marked irf mosfets.. why?
it is wonderful that you could even light 4 leds.
i would like to do that too.
wonderful
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on March 08, 2014, 04:18:03 PM

I appreciate your answer.
i have three questions, i would like to replicate too.
that two coils on a magnetic material are just separate inductors .. ?
that two diodes in a box are?
the npn and pnp transistors are marked irf mosfets.. why?
it is wonderful that you could even light 4 leds.
i would like to do that too.
wonderful
The two coils are separate inductors.
Those 2 diodes can be one or more than two, fast diodes, minimum 200volts.
Both transistors are mosfets but I would use mosfet for the npn, irfp460  and 2n2905 for the  pnp transistor.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: energia9 on March 08, 2014, 04:59:20 PM

I appreciate your answer.
i have three questions, i would like to replicate too.
that two coils on a magnetic material are just separate inductors .. ?
that two diodes in a box are?
the npn and pnp transistors are marked irf mosfets.. why?
it is wonderful that you could even light 4 leds.
i would like to do that too.
wonderful
The two coils are separate inductors.
Those 2 diodes can be one or more than two, fast diodes, minimum 200volts.
Both transistors are mosfets but I would use mosfet for the npn, irfp460  and 2n2905 for the  pnp transistor.

Romero
now i have a question regarding the signal generator and its connections ,  what chip are you building around?
because the chip is incorporated many amateurs like me dont get the picture..
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Vincent on March 08, 2014, 11:55:16 PM

I appreciate your answer.
i have three questions, i would like to replicate too.
that two coils on a magnetic material are just separate inductors .. ?
that two diodes in a box are?
the npn and pnp transistors are marked irf mosfets.. why?
it is wonderful that you could even light 4 leds.
i would like to do that too.
wonderful
The two coils are separate inductors.
Those 2 diodes can be one or more than two, fast diodes, minimum 200volts.
Both transistors are mosfets but I would use mosfet for the npn, irfp460  and 2n2905 for the  pnp transistor.

Romero
now i have a question regarding the signal generator and its connections ,  what chip are you building around?
because the chip is incorporated many amateurs like me dont get the picture..


Hi Energia9,

I was looking the 2 diagrams (30w / 80w).

- The 80w model 99% sure that it's another TL494 working with complementary output. So one is on and the other one is off and you can dump electrons from a to b.
- The 30w model looks like Romero's prototype. Also JNaudin was working in something similar years ago (still on his website all the info).

The key of this ideas is the coil / are the coils and how are resonating. So more than being focus on the circuit, will be a better idea to play with a signal generator + coils + capacitor + oscilloscope and you will have the answer and then is just a game to find the better circuit to run the setup.

Regards,

Vincent
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on March 09, 2014, 12:15:02 AM
@energia9

Vincent is right, it is TL494, look at the other Akula's schematic.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on March 09, 2014, 12:24:22 AM
I have started cutting the parts for the new generator also winding the cores...
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: energia9 on March 09, 2014, 09:33:24 AM
I have started cutting the parts for the new generator also winding the cores...
wow romero, its nice to look at the precisity involved :)
i hope you will be able to suceed in making of this device.
by the way, everyone is so busy with the circuits, can you romero or some else who have a grasp on what is happening in those coils and why we need them.  does an yone come out with a plausible explanation?
is this circuit collecting the high voltage on m field collapse?
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on March 09, 2014, 12:58:45 PM
I have started cutting the parts for the new generator also winding the cores...

Wish i could afford one of that cnc, perfect cut  :)
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on March 09, 2014, 06:32:05 PM
CNC progress for the new generator.
it takes a lot of time to cut these parts. I used increments o 0.5mm for each step in depth.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on March 09, 2014, 10:40:13 PM
Wow! Nice clean cut, can't wait for the final outcome, not rushing you heheh... ;D
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on March 10, 2014, 09:15:50 AM
Wow! Nice clean cut, can't wait for the final outcome, not rushing you heheh... ;D
There is more to be done, only two coils are ready.
The other ones will be done after the assembly is done and test these two.
I am going to start working on the rotor now but still have to wait for the magnets to arrive.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on March 14, 2014, 03:19:13 PM
More coils... should do preliminary tests this weekend.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on March 15, 2014, 03:12:07 PM
Ooh... Nice coils, will see if they will share the s.u.l effect...  ;D
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: From other Planet on March 16, 2014, 02:08:02 AM
Hi Romero,
I'm trying to replicate attached schematic from u. Sadly i didn't see the post where u said  to wind on top of each other. So i wound all 3 coils together, like a bedini. Of course L3 ends earlier, as its only half length. I'm also not really sure what u mean with on top of each other. Like 1 coil on 1 side of air gap, 1 on other, and Output above both? I'm using small airgap, as a certain gap so far gives best results. Also i not really understand the tuning with different octaves for L1 and L2, my coils both "vibrate" at same frequency, which is dependant on the size of the tuning capacitor.
The good news is, i see these additional square pulses that seem to come out of nowhere, like on ur scopeshots, but only 1 till 4 per MOSFET pulse, depending on Input Voltage. And without the additional high frequency ringing on the waveform ??? ::)
BTW, what u mean with litz wire for L1 and L2, u mean many from each other insulated strands?
Please dear Romero give me a hint  :) ;) ;D
kind regards,
From other Planet
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on March 16, 2014, 01:32:43 PM
Hi Romero,
I'm trying to replicate attached schematic from u. Sadly i didn't see the post where u said  to wind on top of each other. So i wound all 3 coils together, like a bedini. Of course L3 ends earlier, as its only half length. I'm also not really sure what u mean with on top of each other. Like 1 coil on 1 side of air gap, 1 on other, and Output above both? I'm using small airgap, as a certain gap so far gives best results. Also i not really understand the tuning with different octaves for L1 and L2, my coils both "vibrate" at same frequency, which is dependant on the size of the tuning capacitor.
The good news is, i see these additional square pulses that seem to come out of nowhere, like on ur scopeshots, but only 1 till 4 per MOSFET pulse, depending on Input Voltage. And without the additional high frequency ringing on the waveform ??? ::)
BTW, what u mean with litz wire for L1 and L2, u mean many from each other insulated strands?
Please dear Romero give me a hint  :) ;) ;D
kind regards,
From other Planet
The way I did it is: wound L3 first then L2 then L1. Might work in other arrangements too but I have not tried and did not spend too much time as the total output was very small.
What transistor is in your circuit? IRFP460 or better is required, not all transistors will work properly especially ringing effect occurs when transistor is off and that is what makes this circuit to behave like it does.
There are few people working to replicate this circuit and someone its almost there.
If L1 resonates at 1kHz then L2 will have to be ringing (resonating) at 2kHz. I know its hard to tweak but when its done it works nice.
Litz wire is multiple wires isolated from each other.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: From other Planet on March 16, 2014, 02:58:31 PM
Thank you!!!  :)
Yes im using also IRFP460, but not with high amp MOSFET-driver atm, as yesterday i destroyed my whole selfmade MOSFET Pulse and TL494 signal generator board. But i will improve that.
All the best to you!
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: From other Planet on March 16, 2014, 08:56:08 PM
I shared ur schematic on Overunity.com in akula thread. Hope thats ok. If not i will delete it. Btw there seems to be a problem with PM and email function here 3 or 4 times i try to send u this message. The arithmetic with zero as result always gives an error. Email function also seems not to work. So now i post message here...

Kind regards,
From other Planet
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on March 16, 2014, 08:58:22 PM
I shared ur schematic on Overunity.com in akula thread. Hope thats ok. If not i will delete it. Btw there seems to be a problem with PM and email function here 3 or 4 times i try to send u this message. The arithmetic with zero as result always gives an error. Email function also seems not to work. So now i post message here...

Kind regards,
From other Planet
I've got your message, check your email.
I am receiving emails on romerouk@gmail.com or admin@underservice.org.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on March 16, 2014, 09:04:55 PM
To make it clear for all. I DID NOT REPLICATE AKULA'S DEVICE.
All scope shots are from my schematic.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on March 19, 2014, 05:23:56 PM
Something very strange....
About 10 days back I placed an order for 60 magnets, some of them for the new rotor and the others for different projects.
Normally it takes only 2-3 days to get them but now after 9 days of waiting I had to call and find out what is going on.
They said that the parcel was sent on 10 of March but then it was 'stopped and advised' to cancel the order and refund the money.
All this time  I was not informed of having the order canceled and that the money are already refunded, I did't ask for that.
I asked what is the reason for having the order canceled and who asked for that but no more communication.
This its very strange...

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: dllabarre on March 19, 2014, 06:17:07 PM
My guess would be the size of your order alerted someone.
Try smaller orders.  I know the total shipping will be more in the end but at least you'll have all you need.

DonL


Something very strange....
About 10 days back I placed an order for 60 magnets, some of them for the new rotor and the others for different projects.
Normally it takes only 2-3 days to get them but now after 9 days of waiting I had to call and find out what is going on.
They said that the parcel was sent on 10 of March but then it was 'stopped and advised' to cancel the order and refund the money.
All this time  I was not informed of having the order canceled and that the money are already refunded, I did't ask for that.
I asked what is the reason for having the order canceled and who asked for that but no more communication.
This its very strange...

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on March 19, 2014, 08:16:20 PM
My guess would be the size of your order alerted someone.
Try smaller orders.  I know the total shipping will be more in the end but at least you'll have all you need.

DonL


Something very strange....
About 10 days back I placed an order for 60 magnets, some of them for the new rotor and the others for different projects.
Normally it takes only 2-3 days to get them but now after 9 days of waiting I had to call and find out what is going on.
They said that the parcel was sent on 10 of March but then it was 'stopped and advised' to cancel the order and refund the money.
All this time  I was not informed of having the order canceled and that the money are already refunded, I did't ask for that.
I asked what is the reason for having the order canceled and who asked for that but no more communication.
This its very strange...

Romero
I had larger parcels from the same company and never had a problem. 60 magnets are not that big, I had even 200 in a previous order and arrived in 3 days. Why would a company do that without contacting me...
I have placed another order with another company now.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: From other Planet on March 19, 2014, 09:19:48 PM
uh, interesting to hear this as i also got very strange stuff going on with my packets since aproximately a year. They get very long delayed by customs sometimes, my packets are received by people i dont know and who are not any neighbours, stay disappeared for more than a month, then suddenly lay in my house entrance. (i can see that with online tracking)
But it gets even stranger: Packets that i normally i had to pay for (both custom taxes and cash on delivery) often arrive without me having to pay for them since some time. What the hell is going on here?
And i dont even have any running looped free energy devices, only the v8carlo device with seemingly 0,4-0,5 w more out than in where im still not sure its real. And a otto/inogda TPU for that i have no driver. And of course lots of builds and replications that dont work.
Since 2 years i also have people logging in to my internet accounts, but not stealing anything or do anything (paypal, mail, facebook, etc.) And yes, i changed all passwords and reinstalled windows, but still... (though last time i noticed someone other logging in was 5 or 6 month ago, hope thats a good sign)
Im getting paranoid...

Btw, I didnt continue on replication of Romero last autonomous device last 2 days, but i will again. I already noticed with some cap values I indeed could have different frequencies on the L1 and L2 coil. Think i maybe need 1 or 2 days break from building.

kind regards,
From other Planet
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on March 19, 2014, 10:36:55 PM
Just relax, no one is hunting you because of your devices, lol
Maybe you really need to take a break  ;)
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: From other Planet on March 19, 2014, 10:39:14 PM
ok, sounds good  ;)
but what is ur explanation then for these strange things happening?
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: From other Planet on March 20, 2014, 05:17:33 PM
Sorry if i scared anybody other than myself too yesterday. Sometimes im little sensitive and Romeros post hit me like a hammer, i already had got used to this strange packet experiences before, and stuff for free isnt too bad also.  ;)

However, fear helps no one, but only takes freedom from people. So lets carry on with our mission to make this planet a little better place for ourselves and the ones we love. And for other humans of course as well.

Peace to all and kind regards
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on March 20, 2014, 07:42:31 PM
The order I placed yesterday already arrived today.
Magnets mounted on the rotor.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on March 22, 2014, 05:14:40 PM
One more coil before first test.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on March 23, 2014, 02:16:07 PM
One more coil before first test.

Nice, nice, nice! Like it!  :o
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Dave45 on March 23, 2014, 04:50:49 PM
You always do awesome work bro
interesting choice of cores, I wonder how a centertap would work with your setup.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on March 23, 2014, 08:37:59 PM
You always do awesome work bro
interesting choice of cores, I wonder how a centertap would work with your setup.
I am testing all possibilities now, different lengths of wire, bifillar or multifillar wire.
There are interesting effects already similar with Eckin

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: sinergicus on March 27, 2014, 06:43:58 PM
Something very strange....
About 10 days back I placed an order for 60 magnets, some of them for the new rotor and the others for different projects.
Normally it takes only 2-3 days to get them but now after 9 days of waiting I had to call and find out what is going on.
They said that the parcel was sent on 10 of March but then it was 'stopped and advised' to cancel the order and refund the money.
All this time  I was not informed of having the order canceled and that the money are already refunded, I did't ask for that.
I asked what is the reason for having the order canceled and who asked for that but no more communication.
This its very strange...

Romero

Yes is very strange ..if this will happening again and again ,this means ,somebody try to stop you to make experiments...maybe is a way to control the research of free energy of some talented guys that looks dangerous for  bad guys ....I am curious what will be the next time...
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on March 27, 2014, 07:06:47 PM
Something very strange....
About 10 days back I placed an order for 60 magnets, some of them for the new rotor and the others for different projects.
Normally it takes only 2-3 days to get them but now after 9 days of waiting I had to call and find out what is going on.
They said that the parcel was sent on 10 of March but then it was 'stopped and advised' to cancel the order and refund the money.
All this time  I was not informed of having the order canceled and that the money are already refunded, I did't ask for that.
I asked what is the reason for having the order canceled and who asked for that but no more communication.
This its very strange...

Romero

Yes is very strange ..if this will happening again and again ,this means ,somebody try to stop you to make experiments...maybe is a way to control the research of free energy of some talented guys that looks dangerous for  bad guys ....I am curious what will be the next time...
I have ordered  again from another company and I had no problems, next day I  received my parcel
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Vincent on March 27, 2014, 10:26:03 PM
Something very strange....
About 10 days back I placed an order for 60 magnets, some of them for the new rotor and the others for different projects.
Normally it takes only 2-3 days to get them but now after 9 days of waiting I had to call and find out what is going on.
They said that the parcel was sent on 10 of March but then it was 'stopped and advised' to cancel the order and refund the money.
All this time  I was not informed of having the order canceled and that the money are already refunded, I did't ask for that.
I asked what is the reason for having the order canceled and who asked for that but no more communication.
This its very strange...

Romero

Yes is very strange ..if this will happening again and again ,this means ,somebody try to stop you to make experiments...maybe is a way to control the research of free energy of some talented guys that looks dangerous for  bad guys ....I am curious what will be the next time...
I have ordered  again from another company and I had no problems, next day I  received my parcel

Hi sinergicus,

We can't really affirm that somebody is trying to do something.... We must keep our minds on focus , your heart open and our soul free of fear. Look at the sky, touch the ground with your hand and ask for help; 3 dimension is heavy, but there is always a window to the source.

Regards,

Vincent
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on March 29, 2014, 12:52:00 AM
Today I did a smaller version of the new generator.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on March 29, 2014, 10:21:00 PM
Mini generator assembled, ready for testing. 
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on March 29, 2014, 11:02:53 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7e6Lu_YSCo[/youtube]
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on March 30, 2014, 04:57:01 AM
Hi Romero,
Any good news with the prototype? That one is cute. Can you show input output pls?
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: From other Planet on March 30, 2014, 07:06:48 AM
Hey guys.

I posted a text on overunity.com and overunityresearch that u maybe will like. Word just crashed after I wrote half part of it so I wrote it again.

Here is the link to it:
http://www.overunity.com/14455/freedom-first-then-overunity/#msg394810

I can feel the peaceful spiritual revolution on this planet has begun and I enjoy it. I hope u will join it too  ;)

very kind regards and love and peace and strength to you all,
ur friend From other Planet  :)
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on March 30, 2014, 08:30:59 PM
People asked me for plans and dimensions of my latest generator.
Here are cad files for SRG3. I have also saved them in other formats.
Bearings from http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/360890812667?var=630253290014&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649  (10x19x7)

Cores from here https://pacecomponents.worldsecuresystems.com/pace-components/ferrite-cores/u-cores/u60x55x15-cf138

Coil = 14 layers with 0.70mm

Rotor 25mm thick

It can be constructed without the CNC pockets, cores ca be positioned in place then tighten in between the two sides. MDF of other wood materials can be used too.

                THIS IS NOT AN INVITATION TO BUILD IT
THIS IS NOTHING MORE THAN AN EFFICIENT MOTOR-GENERATOR

Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Vincent on March 30, 2014, 10:36:53 PM
Good Job !!!! Thank you for sharing your work.
V
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Dave45 on March 30, 2014, 10:45:07 PM
Nice setup, if anyone can make it self run it will be you.
How do you wind such neat coils?
Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Vincent on March 30, 2014, 10:59:59 PM
In my attached pictures you can find information that can help you build your own generator with minimal expense.

Replication succeeded 100%. Good source to understand about harmonics. Took me 1 month to find the right setup. Length from the power supplier wires, capacitors (ceramic, polyester), every detail counts and there isn't a general formula to replicate. Just test and test and oscilloscope in one hand (FFT).

Vincent
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on March 31, 2014, 07:51:06 AM
Nice setup, if anyone can make it self run it will be you.
How do you wind such neat coils?
Thanks for sharing
Winding process is very slow, one layer, glue, wait few minutes then another layer...

Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Vincent on April 01, 2014, 02:57:44 AM
Nice setup, if anyone can make it self run it will be you.
How do you wind such neat coils?
Thanks for sharing
Winding process is very slow, one layer, glue, wait few minutes then another layer...

I have bad memories from high school...Winding is my karma, but I'm becoming a master ninja on that. Patience....
Vincent
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: From other Planet on April 01, 2014, 09:03:27 AM

Replication succeeded 100%. Good source to understand about harmonics. Took me 1 month to find the right setup. Length from the power supplier wires, capacitors (ceramic, polyester), every detail counts and there isn't a general formula to replicate. Just test and test and oscilloscope in one hand (FFT).

Vincent

Congratulations !!!!  :)


Winding process is very slow, one layer, glue, wait few minutes then another layer...

Some Bees wax in a spoon over a candle works good too and coils are easier to change later on, but it is not that firm when using solid wire thicker than 0,7mm diameter
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Dave45 on April 05, 2014, 01:37:32 AM
Hey bro you OK, havent heard from ya for awhile.

How the gen working out  :)

dave
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: darkwanderer on April 05, 2014, 06:37:38 AM
This setup surely gets more voltage output than the muller generator setup. It's more efficient when I simulate the setup...
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 05, 2014, 11:57:07 PM
Hey bro you OK, havent heard from ya for awhile.

How the gen working out  :)

dave
All working fine but I need more tweaking to make it even better. What you saw was the mini version but I also have another larger version with 6 coils.
I was very busy at work lately,  had no time for experimenting. This weekend must tidy up the garden, maybe few hours experimenting...

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Victor on April 09, 2014, 02:06:20 AM
Salut Romi,

Nu ştiu dacă ai văzut asta. Poate că te interesează.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUZXLYVYOis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2PSJ-0vNlI

Cred că principiul este acelaşi ca la QEG, şi implicit, baza se află ?n brevetul de invenţie nr. 511.916 din 2 ianuarie 1894 al lui Nikola Tesla
http://hopegirl2012.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/qeg-user-manual-3-25-14.pdf
Nu de alta, dar am văzut că ce experimentezi tu acolo seamănă foarte mult cu acest QEG.
Respect şi numai de bine.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 09, 2014, 12:47:56 PM
@Victor
Am un generator in genul QEG doar ca este mai mic, approx 200watt putere la iesire si folosesc un toroid de ferita.
Nu mai stiu sigur pe unde il am dar o sa il caut si o sa pun poze cu el.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Victor on April 10, 2014, 08:46:19 AM
@Victor
Am un generator in genul QEG doar ca este mai mic, approx 200watt putere la iesire si folosesc un toroid de ferita.
Nu mai stiu sigur pe unde il am dar o sa il caut si o sa pun poze cu el.

Romero

Chiar mă interesează foarte mult şi vreau să contruiesc aşa ceva. P?nă de cur?nd nu am luat ?n seamă acest tip de generator pentru că nu am găsit prea multă informaţie despre el şi nu ştiam dacă este ?ntr-adevăr foarte eficient, dar acum, după ce am descoperit acest user manual, intenţionez să construiesc unul cu g?ndul de a-l folosi pentru a "recupera" o parte din curentul de alimentare la o bicicletă electrică. Am absolut toate materialele de care este nevoie pentru construţie şi chiar ?ţi răm?n dator dacă ai pune aceste poze şi mi-ai da mai multe detalii despre el.
Victor
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Dave45 on April 14, 2014, 04:50:47 PM
Romero
 You are always working with magnet gens, thought you might find this vid interesting.
The direction the current is running through the diode as opposed to a copper coil would indicate the polarity is opposite a copper coil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8vnHVV25tU
Copper coil ---- pos
Iron coil ---- neg

Anyway thought I would bring it to your attention since you work with gens,
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 14, 2014, 06:05:39 PM
Romero
 You are always working with magnet gens, thought you might find this vid interesting.
The direction the current is running through the diode as opposed to a copper coil would indicate the polarity is opposite a copper coil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8vnHVV25tU
Copper coil ---- pos
Iron coil ---- neg

Anyway thought I would bring it to your attention since you work with gens,
Thank you Dave, I know I've seen this one before, I will have another go.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Dave45 on April 16, 2014, 01:13:05 AM
I thought you might also be interested in this, not sure how it would react in a magnet gen but is an interesting read.
www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/dlattach/attach/136809/
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: free_nrg on April 29, 2014, 03:34:56 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7e6Lu_YSCo[/youtube]

Hi Romero,
Can I ask what circuit your using on the srg3 test? Is it the self triggered circuit? And are you running nsns or nnnn?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 29, 2014, 05:18:13 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7e6Lu_YSCo[/youtube]

Hi Romero,
Can I ask what circuit your using on the srg3 test? Is it the self triggered circuit? And are you running nsns or nnnn?
Thanks.
It he first test I was using the self triggered circuit. Now I have a combination of that and another circuit using hall sensor to trigger. I am using NSNS.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: free_nrg on April 29, 2014, 06:59:54 PM
Ok thanks. I have a platform built. Just need to build a circuit. But I can say it has heavy cogging... 8 mags 4 cores. My unit is slightly larger then your srg3. 1 inch neos, 1.2 inch thick cores.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 29, 2014, 09:31:53 PM
Ok thanks. I have a platform built. Just need to build a circuit. But I can say it has heavy cogging... 8 mags 4 cores. My unit is slightly larger then your srg3. 1 inch neos, 1.2 inch thick cores.
When using very powerful magnets its easier to use odd/even magnets/coils to avoid heavy cogging.
With 8mags/4cores you have heavy cogging but when system speeds up cogging is reduced then momentum produced by magnets attraction to the coils can be used in your advantage if you pulse at the right moment.
Now, depending on your arrangement with your coils use attraction when pulsing. Based on many experiments I have done I found that attraction is better than repulsion.
Imagine your rotor turning and magnets very close approaching the cores, that is the time when you must send the pulse.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: free_nrg on April 29, 2014, 10:45:24 PM
Ok, I understand. With that being said, how is the adjustment made using the self triggered circuit? I haven't tried this circuit and was going to try it. Or should i use a hall circuit?
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 30, 2014, 12:49:06 PM
Ok, I understand. With that being said, how is the adjustment made using the self triggered circuit? I haven't tried this circuit and was going to try it. Or should i use a hall circuit?
I like what I see there.
Power one coil using a hall sensor circuit and the opposite coil a self trigger circuit powered only from collected BEMF from the hall circuit. The other two use them to power a load and hall sensor circuit.
If you are aiming for a self runner then you must consider a DC-DC converter.
For the hall triggered circuit use IRFP460 or similar, able to sustain 500volts or more, that will help a lot with the BEMF recovery.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: free_nrg on April 30, 2014, 03:42:30 PM
Thanks for the info Romero.
Do you have any recommendations for a dc/dc converter?

Just powering one coil with hall circuit, @820 rpm, getting 22v in a 10000 if cap. Running off a 11.2v Lipo needing a charge. No bemf collection yet or coil shorting. Gonna build the self triggered circuit today if I can dig up all the parts.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 30, 2014, 03:56:09 PM
Thanks for the info Romero.
Do you have any recommendations for a dc/dc converter?

Just powering one coil with hall circuit, @820 rpm, getting 22v in a 10000 if cap. Running off a 11.2v Lipo needing a charge. No bemf collection yet or coil shorting. Gonna build the self triggered circuit today if I can dig up all the parts.

Thanks!
Now I am using this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10A-DC-DC-600W-10-60V-to-12-80V-Boost-Converter-Step-up-Module-Power-Supply-UK-/350975904870?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Test_Measurement_Equipment_ET&hash=item51b7cb4c66
I have also used this one for low power experiments http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-10Pcs-DC-DC-LM2596-Converter-Buck-Adjustable-Step-Down-Power-Module-1-5-35V-/370844697207?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Test_Measurement_Equipment_ET&hash=item5658110277
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on April 30, 2014, 03:59:59 PM
Nice build there free_nrg, does your coil speed up under load while charging your lipo batt?
What gauge is the wire you used? Any videos? Thanks!

Regards
Cc
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: free_nrg on April 30, 2014, 04:34:14 PM
Nice build there free_nrg, does your coil speed up under load while charging your lipo batt?
What gauge is the wire you used? Any videos? Thanks!

Regards
Cc

No speed under load yet. Coil is 20 awg. @442 turns 2.4 ohms. No videos yet. I need to build a better drive circuit. And bemf recovery. Just got it running last night.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: free_nrg on April 30, 2014, 04:36:53 PM
Thanks for the info Romero.
Do you have any recommendations for a dc/dc converter?

Just powering one coil with hall circuit, @820 rpm, getting 22v in a 10000 if cap. Running off a 11.2v Lipo needing a charge. No bemf collection yet or coil shorting. Gonna build the self triggered circuit today if I can dig up all the parts.

Thanks!
Now I am using this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10A-DC-DC-600W-10-60V-to-12-80V-Boost-Converter-Step-up-Module-Power-Supply-UK-/350975904870?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Test_Measurement_Equipment_ET&hash=item51b7cb4c66
I have also used this one for low power experiments http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-10Pcs-DC-DC-LM2596-Converter-Buck-Adjustable-Step-Down-Power-Module-1-5-35V-/370844697207?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Test_Measurement_Equipment_ET&hash=item5658110277


Thanks for the links!
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on April 30, 2014, 09:25:41 PM
Nice build there free_nrg, does your coil speed up under load while charging your lipo batt?
What gauge is the wire you used? Any videos? Thanks!

Regards
Cc

No speed under load yet. Coil is 20 awg. @442 turns 2.4 ohms. No videos yet. I need to build a better drive circuit. And bemf recovery. Just got it running last night.
For 2.4 ohm coil you will need very high RPM but you can use 2 coils in series to get speed up effect.
Another simple and cheap dc to dc convertor is any laptop charger or power supply for a desktop computer.
Most of them can work fine with input from 90 volts to 240 volts while maintaining the output voltage. Most of them are 18-19 volts  output but you can modify the output power or use it as is. You can apply ac or dc but if used to utilise BEMF from the driver coil then must change the input bridge diodes with fast ones.

Success,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on May 01, 2014, 12:30:53 AM
Nice build there free_nrg, does your coil speed up under load while charging your lipo batt?
What gauge is the wire you used? Any videos? Thanks!

Regards
Cc

No speed under load yet. Coil is 20 awg. @442 turns 2.4 ohms. No videos yet. I need to build a better drive circuit. And bemf recovery. Just got it running last night.

Thanks, pls. Feel free to share your progress, my setup is slowing down with 12v 10w bulb load, but if i short it out, rpm almost doesn't drop, my coils are thick gauge wires, i get 9v with lots of amps, need to wind a smaller gauge to get sul...more to do.....keep it up....

Regards
Cc
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on May 15, 2014, 11:09:08 AM
Some of the parts for my new motor/generator arrived today. One coil ready, lots to go...
I am calling this one SRG4.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on May 18, 2014, 10:23:19 PM
The new generator partially assembled, ready for a quick test.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on May 27, 2014, 08:55:47 PM
Today I received another grid tie inverter. The previous one (Powerjack 1200) died after about one year of use.
Now I got a serious one EverSolar TL3200. Installed and tested just before being too dark outside and still got some power.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on June 06, 2014, 12:21:41 PM
I have just received few flexible solar panels. Each one is putting out 92Watts/ 319volts. This is ideal for all professional grid tie inverters working with input voltages from 125-500volts.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on June 06, 2014, 09:17:40 PM
Flexible solar panels installed on top of my shed.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on June 07, 2014, 09:54:09 PM
Recent experiments...
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on June 07, 2014, 09:55:19 PM
Recent experiments...
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: nicolaienvlad on June 18, 2014, 04:27:09 PM
Recent experiments...

Foarte interesante noutatile de la ROMERO !
Va rog ,daca puteti , precizati numarul de miezuri toroidale din schema cu oscilatorul cu BD139 si BD140 , alimentat de la 1.5 V...
Merci in avans.
nicolaienvlad
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on June 18, 2014, 08:10:30 PM
Recent experiments...

Foarte interesante noutatile de la ROMERO !
Va rog ,daca puteti , precizati numarul de miezuri toroidale din schema cu oscilatorul cu BD139 si BD140 , alimentat de la 1.5 V...
Merci in avans.
nicolaienvlad
te rog sa imi dai link la schema despre care vorbesti, nu stiu exact la ce anume te referi

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: nicolaienvlad on June 20, 2014, 09:31:49 AM
Multumesc pentru mesaj !
Schema la care ma refer este in atasamentul self runing.jpg(59,9KB..)
din raspunsul dvs
Reply #12 on Nov,2013
@Dave45
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on June 20, 2014, 10:42:33 PM
Multumesc pentru mesaj !
Schema la care ma refer este in atasamentul self runing.jpg(59,9KB..)
din raspunsul dvs
Reply #12 on Nov,2013
@Dave45
chiar ma zapacesti... nu am idee la care schema te referi, am testat o multime. Mergi la pagina la care te referi dai Copy la link apoi dai Paste aici. ? Te referi la miezuri toroidale... la mai multe? sau nu mai inteleg eu bine de atata stat prin strainatati :)

Romero

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: nicolaienvlad on July 03, 2014, 04:37:02 PM
Ref. la miezuri toroidale din schema oscilatorului cu BD139 si BD140 data de dvs.
nu reusesc sa fac copy link samd[probabil nu-i dotat softul meu , ca sa nu zic altceva..]
INTREBARE : 1) pot face un mic clip video pe youtu..  si sa va trimit linkul
                     2)pot trimite un email pe adresa dvs. , daca aveti una
Tank , in avans !
nicolaienvlad
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on July 04, 2014, 09:12:56 AM
Ref. la miezuri toroidale din schema oscilatorului cu BD139 si BD140 data de dvs.
nu reusesc sa fac copy link samd[probabil nu-i dotat softul meu , ca sa nu zic altceva..]
INTREBARE : 1) pot face un mic clip video pe youtu..  si sa va trimit linkul
                     2)pot trimite un email pe adresa dvs. , daca aveti una
Tank , in avans !
nicolaienvlad
Salutare,
ma poti contacta folosind  admin@underservice.org
miezurile toroidale la care te referi se gasesc un sursele de alimentare a computerelor. Mergi la un centru de reparatii computere si trebuie sa aiba destule. Presupun ca s-a dus vremea cand oamenii isi pierdeau timpul sa le repare asa ca le poti obtine gratis. Cred ca realizezi ca circuitul la care te referi nu este capabil de prea multe performante, se descurca doar sa lumineze cateva led-uri.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: nicolaienvlad on July 05, 2014, 07:45:58 AM
TANK !
Multumesc pentru raspuns !
Nu este mult ceea ce " scoate " dar o face !
Schema este gasita de dvs. sau .... ORICUM ati facut bine ca ati facut-o cunoscuta !
Tocmai adineaori am vazut , si osciloscopic , si masurand curentul luat de la 1.5 V ca 'aranjamentul' este f. eficient
Inca odata va multumesc !
nicolaienvlad
p.s. Am reusit sa pun , mai demult, pe youtu.be
 [ROTIS de Pompano]
si altele....
Daca aveti timp sa le vedeti , va rog sa-mi spuneti parerea .
link prin google search punand in "fereastra"
 [ROTIS de Pompano]
iar pentru alte "nazbatii " puneti
[Nicolaie N. Vlad]
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 19, 2014, 09:50:11 PM
Working to build another Motor - Generator.This is going to be called RG14 or SRG14.
12 magnets - 8 coils.
There is still more to do before assembly.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 19, 2014, 09:52:52 PM
RG14 - SRG14
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Vincent on October 20, 2014, 11:19:10 PM
Hi Romero. Good job.
Vincent.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Dave45 on November 11, 2014, 12:06:47 PM
Hey Romero
Have you seen the latest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz8k34CWRgk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqWU12Db_MY
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on November 12, 2014, 01:13:54 PM
Hey Romero
Have you seen the latest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz8k34CWRgk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqWU12Db_MY
Hi Dave,

With a shorted coil it is impossible to have over 200volts output.
Something is not right.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Dave45 on November 12, 2014, 10:20:16 PM
Great observation my friend
voltage should drop and amperage should go through the roof.
I knew you would know.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: landownunder on December 14, 2014, 09:55:42 AM
this is the way to overunity very interesting but very log video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXtO7McrRIY&list=UUyuX9xW95-jr1Qj_iELOo5Q
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on December 23, 2014, 04:45:32 PM
Merry Christmas Everyone!!!
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Vincent on December 31, 2014, 05:09:03 PM
Happy New Year !!!!  Health, work and happiness to everyone.

 :)  :)  :)  :)  :)

I'm being busy, but I will post some of my work soon.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on December 31, 2014, 09:46:11 PM
Happy New Year Everyone!!!
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: From other Planet on January 05, 2015, 03:01:18 AM
Happy new Year guys!!  :)
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on May 14, 2015, 02:47:22 PM
I recently bought a cheap Chinese Laser Cutter /Engraver. After opening and initial look and test I was very disappointed, I was about to send it back. After I fixed all loose parts and miss-alignments I started to love it and within few hours I managed to understand how the software works and started making experiments. Since then I have cut parts  for a lot new projects. I am attaching few pictures below.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on May 14, 2015, 02:51:09 PM
More Laser Pictures
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: crazycut06 on June 20, 2015, 11:06:22 AM
Hi, Romero,
     Cool, laser cutting!.... ;D
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: skaarj on September 15, 2015, 04:49:09 AM
Hello Romero

I will use English so everyone can understand.
I have not write you for a long time and my experiments stopped due to lack of funding/time/work/family.

I suggested to you a different approach and I hope you still remember it.
Keep the excitation coils and drop your collecting (generator) coils because they are not efficient.
I told you before, I tell you now again: you do great work but you forget about math.
Your system will always slow down if you power something big, so in an early experiment of yours you did some adjustments with supplementary ferite magnets.

the force which will slow your system is
F = B x I x L   where:
F is brake force (Newtons), B is the magnetic flux (measured in Tesla), I is the intensity (Amps) and L is the inductance.

Heat = U(v) x square_I(A) x t(seconds).
Heat = temperature (in Joules)
U = the voltage
square_I(amps) = I(Amps) x I(Amps)
t is the interval of time you keep the load connected to the generator.

First you need to get rid of the force which brakes when you connect a load.
Notice that in the first formula there's nothing mentioned about Voltage - this means you can have as much volts as you wish. Many many volts. Thousands, tens of thousands, millions if you want.

Also notice that the intensity (amps) causes you a lot of headache.

In an early experiment you achieved some results by tempering with the same formula but you modified the magnetic flux (B) with some extra ferite magnets. This approach is serious - go tamper with the Intensity.

So please try to do this:  dump the generator coils and find some induction coils.
I already have a bag full of Dacia-1300 induction coils and a complete system like yours (the horizontal version, not vertical). I just need a week to complete the setup. Why induction coils? Because they will give you many many many volts (10.000....15.000V) and 0.00...01 amps.  In the first formula, this low value of amps will (almost) cancel the brake force. In the second formula, this low value of amps will cancel the generated heat. Tesla discovered this, I am only the messenger who remembers you about this.

Replace the generator coils with the induction coils. I did not think of the connections (yet) but I am aiming to connect them in series (upper with lower)  then all the pairs again in series.

The resulting voltage is fed via a spark-gap (one or more spark-plug(s)) to microwave transformers.

These transformers should have the 2000V windings in series (add the voltage) and the 220V windings in parallel (add the intensity).

The power (in watts) is P = U x I, which is the same and it is kept at both inputs and output of the transformers.

When you start the system you will notice that the RPM will accelerate when you connect a load. Also if all the coil pairs are connected in series, there will be some residual magnetic field that (I am not yet sure if) will also contribute to accelerate the rotor. With the right setup it may be possible to disconnect the excitation circuit at a certain RPM while powering a load and the rotor will continue to keep the RPM constant. With no other ferite magnets.

And by the way, you won't need a controller, you just need to tune the hal sensors. Attention, this is serious stuff with high voltages and zero electric power loss.

In the mean time you will need around 10 microwave oven transformers (same model, primary in series, 220V secondary in parallel), around 20 induction coils (same model, you decide how many pairs), your excitation coils and electronics (shielded in Faraday cage as much as possible), some spark plugs, some high voltage insulated cables and a pair of good gloves.

Greetings from Sahara (oil drilling site). When I will finally return home I hope I will get my system up and running. When this happens, you will be the first to know the results.

Take care and best wishes.
Title: First Post
Post by: Donald on September 16, 2015, 10:51:19 PM
Hi all,
Very glad that  everyone is  here.

Mr Romero, I have been respecting you and admiring your work for some time.

I have not attempted to duplicate any of your work.
I've done a lot of Bedini and related "stuff".
I've learned a lot for one starting with no knowledge of electronics much less FE devices.
I'm ashamed that I have almost nothing to show for the time and money involved.

I'm presently working with the basic Adams motor and preparing for my 2nd build.
So far I've found that the gen coils, just a few degrees before the motor coil gives the highest gen coil voltage.  I added a 2nd rotor to have full gen coil adjustment.

My 2nd build will be to run at 120v+.  Coming soon.

I'm interested in the Free energy tutorial that was posted but I have no experience with a few items.
1. He says:
"Here are the main components
12 to 24 volt dc to dc converter (5 watts)"

2. In another place he says:
"You should make use of miniature switching
regulators which can produce an output which is
12 volts above the battery voltage"

3. Romero, in your schematics I see the 4017. Is there more to this part number?
    Could someone please give a simple explanation as to the function of this device.

Al little info on these 3 items would be greatly appreciated.

Again thank you you all for being here,
Donald Haas (bro d)
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 21, 2015, 12:43:53 PM
Hi skaarj,

I have learned a lot since the project you are talking about. I have done  many other generators with different concepts. I have not posted any of them to keep the trolls away. Yes, you are right about having the generator coils made of lots of windings but necessary induction coils. I have managed to get very good results with coils having only 10-20 ohms, depending on the shape of the coil and the magnets used. I have no speed increase or decrease when I add a load. Speed increase with the load might sound better for some but it can be very difficult to obtain a stable output. Yes, speed increase with a load is a start. I have not managed to obtain lots of power with my systems. Recently one of the generators designed to produce more power brake apart in many pieces when all coils started to resonate at different frequencies. I am not spending so much time researching as I used to do but I am still here.

Kind regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 21, 2015, 12:59:16 PM
Hi Donald,

please point me to which schematic using 4017 you are referring.
as the output voltage is going to be variable you are going to need some converter to keep the output stable, especially not exceeding the power required by your driver circuit.
-miniature switching regulators - relay coils - 12 volts to 240 volts.
Use long core coils not short. Check attached picture from one of my old projects using 240 volt coils.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Donald on September 21, 2015, 06:53:57 PM
"please point me to which schematic using 4017 you are referring."

Hi Romero,
Thankyou for responding.

I was writing about two topics ( The Snail007500 tutorial with your use of the CD4017, and the Adams motor) should not have mixed them.
I want to do the build from the attachment.
 
I have not used a CD4017 and didn't understand what it was.
I've since learned a little about it and am waiting for an order of them.
I would rather focus on what you did in the attachment,
for the moment. 

I'll ask in a different post about the adams motor and coils for it.
 

Thanks,
bro d
 



Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 21, 2015, 09:07:22 PM
"please point me to which schematic using 4017 you are referring."

Hi Romero,
Thankyou for responding.

I was writing about two topics ( The Snail007500 tutorial with your use of the CD4017, and the Adams motor) should not have mixed them.
I want to do the build from the attachment.
 
I have not used a CD4017 and didn't understand what it was.
I've since learned a little about it and am waiting for an order of them.
I would rather focus on what you did in the attachment,
for the moment. 

I'll ask in a different post about the adams motor and coils for it.
 

Thanks,
bro d
Hi Donald,
for this project must use 4 wires in parallel for the input. You will start seeing results when the coils will start to resonate. For that you will need to use coils with high impedance and run the system at very low frequencies, up to 10 Hz.You might need to add capacitors in parallel with each coil to make them resonate at the required frequency. In my case I have used a large ring core.

Just to warn you, this circuit can overcharge the batteries as there is no charge controller, just pay attention before you destroy the batteries.

Regards,
Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on September 21, 2015, 09:49:32 PM
Failure - Example of an high power output generator - Adams style.
The moment I  reached resonance, everything started to vibrate so hard and the acrylic started to crack. The picture below shows the level of the damage. For all replicators - be ready to fail many time before you can win.

Romero
Title: Reardon patent
Post by: Donald on September 27, 2015, 04:24:50 AM
Romero and All,
I've got my 2nd Adam's motor running at 120v.

I want to mention something from the past on this thread.
Namely the Reardon Lenzless Generator patent.
After looking at it carefully, I see that the magnet poles do not face the coil core faces.
The mag core faces are perpendicular to the  coil core faces.
In the alternate version of the invention it reads like the magnet pole faces are facing the cores when they pass but the theme of the invention is non standard generator config.

The labels for the figs in the patent have mistakes. The pic labeled FIG.3 is the clearest regarding the non standard method. In the patent text, col 3, line 14 should read FIG. 3.
If one condsiders carefully the mag pole relationship with the coil core then the non standard method of generating power is seen.
   
There is something different and interesting here that could be easily checked into.

bro d
Title: Finding resonance
Post by: Donald on September 28, 2015, 11:54:00 PM
Failure - Example of an high power output generator - Adams style.
The moment I  reached resonance, everything started to vibrate so hard and the acrylic started to crack. The picture below shows the level of the damage. For all replicators - be ready to fail many time before you can win.

Romero

Hi Romero,
How do I go about "reaching resonance"?

I have an Adams motor with 4 run coils for 120v and 4 gen coils.
It runs OK up to 130v without mosfet heat problems. (IR triggering)
I have a variac and voltage multiplyer in the system for adjusting speed and voltage.
It runs comfortably at 1800rpm close to 130v.  .13amp.

I do  not understand finding resonance.
I would appreciate a little direction.
Thanks,
Donald
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on October 01, 2015, 02:39:49 PM
Hi Donald,

Knowing the number of magnets on your rotor and the rpm you will find the frequency you are running.
Before that, you need to find the inductance of each coil. All coils will resonate only together with a capacitor, sometimes it's own capacitance but in your case you will have to add capacitors in parallel with to coil.You must have an oscilloscope and LC meter.
To make it easy measure the inductance of one coil and knowing the frequency of your rotor you can calculate the capacitance required. Use online resonance calculators. You might find that there is no way with your coil inductance and your speed to reach resonance frequency. In that case the easiest is to build new coils with the required inductance. You can also find the resonant frequency of a coil by using a signal generator and oscilloscope.

I hope it helps.

Romero
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Donald on October 02, 2015, 06:42:51 AM
Thank you Romero,
Just before reading this I   found a Resonant Frequency Calculator web site:
http://www.1728.org/resfreq.htm
Also  tonight I was checking different coils with signal generator and scope.
I have an LCR meter, so I'll get to it.
Thanks again,
Donald


Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on December 24, 2015, 01:15:01 PM
All the best and Merry Christmas everyone!
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on May 11, 2017, 01:47:00 PM
After a very long absence from free energy research here are some of my new toys I am playing with.
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on May 23, 2017, 10:46:08 AM
More 3D printed toys also LaserSaber's Atmo motor
Title: Re: Romero Experiments
Post by: Romero on June 10, 2017, 02:22:03 PM
More steps ahead playing with new toys...